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Hong Kong Protesters Keep Up the Pressure

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Re: Hong Kong Protesters Keep Up the Pressure

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To be honest, the real protests should begin as key organizers magically "disappear" over the next few months. I can only imagine the amount of intelligence Beijing has collected over these last few days and what sort of operations they have in mind.

The loss of face that they have suffered from this will not stand.

Re: Hong Kong Protesters Keep Up the Pressure

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post #6

I continue seeing military hardware being moved all around Dongguan https://imgur.com/a/qrsJ9af I saw a whole lot of bridge layers with troops yesterday, now that. Occasional troop movements can't be said to be unusual around here (74th army has bases all across the plain in between Huizhou and Guangzhou.) I used to see the almost every day, but never before saw them on the move whole day long.

Has this been covered in any articles? I can't say I've seen it.

Re: Hong Kong Protesters Keep Up the Pressure

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post #13

To be honest, the real protests should begin as key organizers magically "disappear" over the next few months. I can only imagine the amount of intelligence Beijing has collected over these last few days and what sort of operations they have in mind. The loss of face that they have suffered from this will not stand.

> The loss of face that they have suffered from this will not stand

Beijing has limited force projection options. Rolling in the military means inviting international sanctions and possibly military aid, if not for Hong Kong then almost certainly for Taiwan.

The protesters are rationally responding to a ham-fisted (yet weak) authoritarian move by Beijing. (The right move for Beijing is retreat. But that option went off the table when Xi installed himself as leader for life.)

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post #13

To be honest, the real protests should begin as key organizers magically "disappear" over the next few months. I can only imagine the amount of intelligence Beijing has collected over these last few days and what sort of operations they have in mind. The loss of face that they have suffered from this will not stand.

Already in the plan by the sound of things, with the reports of police arresting the injured in hospital, and being given back door access to medical records...

Re: Hong Kong Protesters Keep Up the Pressure

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post #16

If Yellow Vests movement taught us anything, is that you can ignore protests long term, even in the face of daily car fires.

At least until the next election. Where the next guy will make a ton of promises to fix things and then once the shine of a new politician wears off and the lack of actual results become obvious, it’s time for a new politician to fix things!

I also wouldn’t use France for an analogy here. They protest over literally everything. The politicians there must learn quickly how to ignore them.

This doesn’t happened often in Hong Kong, or most countries for that matter. But most countries aren’t facing such a dire future as HK. The Yellow Jacket people, while I support them, have no hardship comparable to facing extradition to China for political wrongthink.

Re: Hong Kong Protesters Keep Up the Pressure

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post #16

If Yellow Vests movement taught us anything, is that you can ignore protests long term, even in the face of daily car fires.

> If Yellow Vests movement taught us anything, is that you can ignore protests long term, even in the face of daily car fires.

Which should be obvious from passive observation and history, but a whole generation of people have been told they matter, and that their form of government is the inclusive ideal that supports that outcome.

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