Does Gmail give away your data to the Swiss government, though?
Yes, and without a warrant too.
Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's worth mentioning that all these measures can be fairly trivially defeated by the analog loophole[1]. I suppose it's harder to prove authenticity in that case, however. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_loophole
But as a worker in a corporation, the chances that you would want an email so badly that you start breaking more corporate rules trying to get a copy of an email is very unlikely at least for common everyday work. This could be a useful feature when dealing with PHI, legal, HR, etc.
>as a worker in a corporation, the chances that you would want an email so badly that you start breaking more corporate rules trying to get a copy of an email is very unlikely
This seems like it should be true, but having worked with end users in the past I would not take this for granted
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#113This makes as much sense as the Outlook recall feature did. User Bob would like to recall email titled, "that sex party last night" Riiiight
Recalls make a lot of sense if mass announcements are sent with mistakes, so people aren't confused by having the incorrect version in a busy inbox.
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#114I first had this argument (obviously I was on the sane side of the argument) in 1994. Amusing to see it persist for 25 years and to even permeate Google.
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#115"Options for recipients to forward, copy, print, or download this email's contents will be disabled." I simply don't understand how they think they can get away with this foolishness. I can forward, copy, print, or download ANYTHING that passes over my ethernet cables. Your silly UI will ultimately never stop me from wiresharking my own cables in my own home and doing whatever the hell I want with any bits of informa…
Dude, come on. You do understand. The feature is like a fence in a yard. It separates the honest from the dishonest, forcing the clueless/negligent/reckless to pick a side.
Nobody believes fences stop criminals, and nobody believes Gmail has ended the DRM arms race.
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#116Google knows more about you then your mom!
Sorry and personally that’s too much for me!
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Allow me to sell your organisation some VR goggles with iris-reading DRM protection. Your browser won't display on any other screen. And Google Services won't work in any other browser.
I can still remember the message (or at least important bits) and can write it down when at home or tell it to other people.
for now
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who cares? This isn't supposed to stop anyone from intentionally doing bad things, this is supposed to make people stop and think "Huh, maybe I'm just not supposed to forward this email" It's really bizarre that so many people on HN can't seem to understand this. Do you guys ever interact with other human beings?
That's an outlandish take, because it's entirely divorced from what Google is claiming. If they were saying, "this feature makes it clear to your employees that they shouldn't forward this email" then this entire HN thread would not exist.
This article is put out by a competitor. Also a significant portion of people on HN really don't like big tech companies (which is fair but besides the point here) so I would've been more surprised if there was nuances conversation about it here.
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#119Google and privacy in the same sentence, no one would bet their house on it if they were to choose
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is Google claiming that you think is impossible?
That the recipient can't "forward, copy, download, or print" the message and that the message expiration will prevent the recipient from viewing the message.
From what you have pasted, it seems that they just claim to disable those options in their UI?