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I pay $60 for unlimited data and also get Direct TV Now with ATT. Also use a family members Netflix. What is the cost for the service you mentioned in India in US dollars?
Most of the Jio services are free if you are on their SIM card. So no extra cost apart from paying for data.
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Broadly, no. I know the other reply said: > 35$ for 1TB up/down, 150 Mbps. Available in all major cities. Good enough? But that's affordable for a very thin slice of the population. Remember that India's average nominal income, i.e., not PPP-adjusted, is $140 per month. Also, this only works in the better-off areas of the "major cities" (Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad and similar) -- there's a lot of th…
Thanks. I suppose my question was less about the affordability of a landline connection, but consumption of. Interesting that you said its a marker of wealth - but are you essentially saying that for everyone else it's not that common. At the heart of what I'm asking is: Did India skip this generation of high-landline consumption, and jump straight to mobile internet?
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#143I'm from India. I can confirm this. It's because unlimited LTE data costs about rs700 per month or 10 dollars. It can be spotty at times - but it works. Mobile is by far the most used form factor. Search for "Jio" on your app store and you'll see a variety of apps like JioTV, JioCinema, JioNews etc.. That means free news, live tv and movies all for the price of a cell phone subscription. Jio is the name of the servic…
I pay $60 for unlimited data and also get Direct TV Now with ATT. Also use a family members Netflix. What is the cost for the service you mentioned in India in US dollars?
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#145It's been interesting to watch (from way over here in the US) as Jio totally changed the Indian market. For anyone reading this from India: is there any negative sentiment about Jio or is everyone just really excited to have cheap reliable data access?
I currently have a 100Mbps + 200 GB per month plan but looking at the tariffs of Jio GigaFiber I can get 100Mbps + 100GB per month + complimentary 40GB per month for a fraction of the price. Once Jio GigaFiber launches with proper tariff plans I am sure I can opt for the 1Gbps + 1TB per month plan for the same price I am paying my current FTTH provider.
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/features/story/jio-giga...
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/features/story/jio-giga...
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#146and we arent even close to peaking. The biggest telcos in India havent even started content plays. Netflix just entered India. And we still have HALF A BILLION people not on the internet. This is in an environment with constitutionally guaranteed fundamental rights to privacy (that cannot be reversed by the govt), a govt run mobile payments infrastructure that is literally a free Stripe+Paypal+Venmo+Alipay and perhap…
Considering nearly everyone (who isn't an ARPU "deadbeat") is on WhatsApp I would think the ruling doesn't matter one way or another because you don't have much privacy left anyway.
Plus, if the govt wants the scoop on anyone's private life, they will just ask Facebook to hand it over or else.... (ban WhatsApp, ban Instagram, block approval for cryptocurrency projects, harden data storage rules and whatever else a government can do to threaten a corporation).
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>Looking at India, it has a GDP per Capita that's 1/8 of the US Okay, then lets multiply Indian prices by 8. Someone up the thread quoted this: >For 6 dollars 50 cents, you get 1.5 GB/day for 91 days. Where in the US can I get 1.5GB/day for 91 days for $52 ? Before someone talks about congestion, this is India, with 1.3 Billion people and "third world" infrastructure. If that kind of bandwidth can be provided to that…
Not to be contrary, but that is almost exactly what I pay to T-Mobile (in the US) for unlimited data. I also have great coverage in rural parts of the country. Strictly multiplying by 8 isn't really a good comparison, as the cost of supporting such a network in India isn't going to cost 1/8th as much as the US. I'm sure there's a lot of room for the US cellular carriers to be more efficient.
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#148and we arent even close to peaking. The biggest telcos in India havent even started content plays. Netflix just entered India. And we still have HALF A BILLION people not on the internet. This is in an environment with constitutionally guaranteed fundamental rights to privacy (that cannot be reversed by the govt), a govt run mobile payments infrastructure that is literally a free Stripe+Paypal+Venmo+Alipay and perhap…
>> constitutionally guaranteed fundamental rights to privacy Considering nearly everyone (who isn't an ARPU "deadbeat") is on WhatsApp I would think the ruling doesn't matter one way or another because you don't have much privacy left anyway. Plus, if the govt wants the scoop on anyone's private life, they will just ask Facebook to hand it over or else.... (ban WhatsApp, ban Instagram, block approval for cryptocurren…
in india, the right to privacy was upheld by the constitutional bench of the supreme court to be a fundamental human right.
This triggered a multi-billion dollar reversal of the Aadhaar biometric social-security id project.
the govt cannot do this without due judicial process even if it tries to create a law. we have stronger privacy protections than the US.
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#149Americans are going to be livid when they learn how cheap data plans are in India. The reason this works is free market, unlike the US where the likes of Comcast have monopoly in the regions they operate. Hasan Minhaj did a show this week on Netflix, you should watch it - he explains pretty well how horrible Comcast like companies are.
It's weird. I'm an American living in Russia. Here, we have many more choices for cell phone plans. And they're all cheap and innovative vs even the cheapest US plan. Competition really does work! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_industry_in_Russi...
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> no privacy issues yet (money is directly debited from account without a mastercard/visa involved) Isn’t Aadhar (fingerprints + iris scan) needed to have a bank account? If yes, then it’s a bit disingenuous to say there are no privacy issues. > No risk of fraud A cursory search will show plenty of press articles re UPI fraud. For instance [1]. [1] https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/personal-finance/...
>Isn’t Aadhar (fingerprints + iris scan) needed to have a bank account? If yes, then it’s a bit disingenuous to say there are no privacy issues. Nopes. Govt tried really hard. Attorney General didn't really sound far from Facebook's primary lawyer. But Supreme Court shut it down. >A cursory search will show plenty of press articles re UPI fraud. For instance [1]. I should expand that I meant technical fraud - your ca…
So unless you're too poor to file taxes (or are not an Indian resident), bank accounts can always be linked to Aadhar, even if it happens via the PAN.
[1] https://qz.com/india/1351263/supreme-court-verdict-how-india...
[2] https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/jmxPkXXGWeEfiAsCsA1xnO/Opin...
Re Aadhar -- HN readers should note that IndiaStack (indiastack.org, very popular with VCs operating in India) relies a lot on Aadhar, so a lot of people in Indian Startups have a financial interest in not seeing the downsides of Aadhar.