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Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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If the other 20% is useful content then that's still an awful lot of content.

Like dumpster diving you can find good content anywhere but are you sure you want to dive into dumpsters?

I do whenever I see cables sticking out.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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I'm pretty sure the recovery process for backblaze includes them decrypting your files on their infrastructure and then sending to you. Or something like that. I did a ton of research into the different options recently and didn't like backblaze because of that. However, I decided to give them a try anyway as I was partly researching for a friend who desperately needed backups and didn't care about that as much. So I…

I'll point out that nothing stops you, with any service at all, from encrypting yourself then backing that up. Ie., it's completely fine with Backblaze to dump everything into an encrypted sparseimage first, and then back up that rather then your drive directly. That's not to say getting a couple of simple external USB HDDs and then rotating them into a firesafe offsite once a week isn't a good idea too, or having a…

This is true but it adds a lot of complexity and brittleness for the average person.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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My desktop caught fire once. I pulled the plug and the fire went out. Turns out the graphics card burst into flames. That had never happened to me before in 40 years of desktops. I had a fair amount of smoke damage that needed cleaning up. Now it sits on a piece of sheet steel instead of the wood floor. Edit: I usually assemble my desktop cases from mail order parts. This desktop happened to have a metal case rather…

Well, they did warn you https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fak1.ostkcdn...

I don't get it, can you explain?

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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Other than the GPU on the 2012's will randomly fail with no other fix than to disable the discrete GPU via firmware hacks.

The 2012 13” at least didnt have a discrete gpu (iirc earlier years did).

MacBook Air (13-inch, Late 2010)! Really old but still servicable. For the last 5 years no Apple product has enticed me like they used to...

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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Those fumes in the video can't be healthy, right? Why is this person standing there just inhaling that? I would be very concerned about breathing battery-fire fumes, no? Maybe they are not as toxic as I think? What should one do if this happens? Pouring water might make things worse, right?

Hmm. "Although the emission of toxic gases can be a larger threat than the heat, the knowledge of such emissions is limited." from a study titled "Toxic fluoride gas emissions from lithium-ion battery fires"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5577247/

CDC has some information about HF gas but they don't tend to link it to battery fires. Not sure about any of the amounts but it's just not something you want to burn in a firepit I suppose.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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writing this on an ancient macbook air, on my 3rd self installed battery. I have a battery swelling damaged but still working trackpad. Can't bring myself to buy a new Macbook if it's not upgradeable...Apple you need to fix this with a user upgradeable model

Yeah, you need a 2012 Macbook. Get the best CPU possible, add a cheap SSD, max the RAM

Yes it is a workhorse for me, still running strong though. would be great if more memory and SSD that could be removed. My worry is when the current SSD dies.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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I also had my battery swell recently to the point where the bulging was visible and noticeable as the mbp wouldn't lay flat on the table anymore. When I consulted the apple store (Berlin) about it they told it I need not to worry about it and I wouldn't be eligible for a battery swap as the mbp was performing 'nominally'. I was sceptical and let the battery drain over night, it ended up turning off at ~30% supposed c…

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Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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Those fumes in the video can't be healthy, right? Why is this person standing there just inhaling that? I would be very concerned about breathing battery-fire fumes, no? Maybe they are not as toxic as I think? What should one do if this happens? Pouring water might make things worse, right?

I wouldn't breathe it. It probably won't kill you, but it won't be healthy, either. If anything, it would be like breathing the fumes from welding on galvanized steel.

Now - maybe you haven't done this; I'd suspect many haven't. Galvanized steel has a coating of zinc, which boils at a much lower temperature than steel melts at. So when you're welding on such steel, the smoke and fumes given off (which even when welding normally should be avoided) are particularly nasty:

https://www.bakersgas.com/weldmyworld/2011/12/03/side-effect...

A mild case of it basically feels like a very terrible cold/flu - but it can be deadly in great amounts. I'd suspect (but I'm not sure) that lithium fumes might cause similar symptoms.

And just for sake of completeness, because a lot of people aren't aware of it - if you weld, never, ever weld on anything that has been soaked with brake cleaner that contains tetrachloroethylene. It will release phosgene gas, which is deadly in small amounts:

https://www.brewracingframes.com/safety-alert-brake-cleaner-...

That's from a guy who survived such an accidental exposure - but he's now messed up for life. You can still buy this kind of brake cleaner in some states, but it's not for sale in others (I believe its banned from sale in California).

It's not so much that particular chemical, as it is the chlorine makeup of the chemical (the -chloro part); you could probably generate such gas by heating and vaporizing household bleach or pool chemicals that have chlorine in them, if you wanted to. But neither of those are likely to be used around steel and mechanical work like brake cleaner is.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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Which is really odd that I have never experienced or seen it in the older laptops. Perhaps it's a fairly new thing in the increasingly common thin form factor (Apple or otherwise but I haven't heard much of others).

Older laptops left space for the batteries so they could swell slightly without damaging the laptop. Apple's design leaves no such space.

Are Apple using cylindrical cells or pouches? Cylindrical cells doesn't swell in the same way and have pressure cap before they crack the shell. Pouches probably has to swell abit before their cap pop.

Re: My MacBook Pro exploded and burst into flames

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Saying that something is professional negligence is not a personal attack.

Directing that at a person is , and there seems to be no justification for the implication of moral failing.

Quite the contrary. The person making the original comment attributed it to his laziness, a far more personal comment than the reply which was "professional negligence".

It seems like you've gotten so far down the road of online "courtesy" and liberal non-confrontation that you don't know what's legitimate criticism and not a personal attack?

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