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Slack Is Going Public Without an IPO – How a Direct Listing Works

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> In an IPO, SEC rules typically restrict shareholders from selling shares until six months after the offering. A direct offering makes it much easier for employees and early investors to cash out as soon as the first day of trading. This can be a big help for investors in companies that have waited to go public, which many of the best-known tech companies have been doing for years Is it wrong to interpret this as ot…

I don’t know, but I do think you can take the recent spate of high profile IPOs as an indicator that a lot of people want to “cash out” (sell their shares) or “cash in” (raise money whilst the market is bullish) right now. Presumably they think the market won’t get much better.

It seems pretty obvious that we’re in a bubble, given the excessive valuations and obvious signs such as the incredible rise of WeWork and “me too” startup culture. But the nature of a bubble is that such things are normalised and rationalised. What’s particularly difficult about this bubble is that economic conditions have conspired to maintain it far longer that the .com boom, which has meant predictions of the burst have been premature.

I definitely think we’re in a better place than the late 90s, but it’s still a bubble. Perhaps such cyclic swings are inevitable; just wish we’d done more constructive and positive things than Uber, Airbnb, Facebook, Twitter, with this era of cheap money. Could have had more Teslas and SpaceXs.

Re: Slack Is Going Public Without an IPO – How a Direct Listing Works

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> In an IPO, SEC rules typically restrict shareholders from selling shares until six months after the offering. A direct offering makes it much easier for employees and early investors to cash out as soon as the first day of trading. This can be a big help for investors in companies that have waited to go public, which many of the best-known tech companies have been doing for years Is it wrong to interpret this as ot…

No. Employees presumably hold a lot of the stock and would like some form of liquidity, as would investors, etc.

Making the stock immediately valuable is very important

Re: Slack Is Going Public Without an IPO – How a Direct Listing Works

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you can suggest that true stock values are both unknowable and that the market is a weak approximation at the same time. Requiring one to know the true answer to challenge the status quo isn’t all that different from poor religious reasonings. The stock market exhibits massive changes without much new information except information about the actions of other investors. You can similarly believe something is basically…

The market incorporates information into the price, not the other way around. Or in other words the price is the total aggregate of the information.

Isn’t it somewhat cyclical? It seems to me that the market price is also information about what the market thinks about the company, and what the market thinks about the company can certainly affect the performance of the company.

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Another example of a name and symbol being different is Salesforce with a symbol of CRM

Sun changed their identifier from SUNW to JAVA near the end.

@track_me_now: you seem to be shadowbanned even though your comments seem reasonable to me. You might want to message the mods.

Re: Slack Is Going Public Without an IPO – How a Direct Listing Works

#78

> In an IPO, SEC rules typically restrict shareholders from selling shares until six months after the offering. A direct offering makes it much easier for employees and early investors to cash out as soon as the first day of trading. This can be a big help for investors in companies that have waited to go public, which many of the best-known tech companies have been doing for years Is it wrong to interpret this as ot…

Sounds wrong. First of all, I'm pretty sure it's not the SEC which forbids selling the first 6 months. It's the underwriting banks that enforce this on pre-ipo shareholders in order to protect the price volatility of the offering.

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Slack has essentially no marginal cost. Cars have massive marginal cost

No marginal cost? What do you call operating expenses, AWS for example?

I call that "almost no marginal cost".

Re: Slack Is Going Public Without an IPO – How a Direct Listing Works

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can suggest that true stock values are both unknowable and that the market is a weak approximation at the same time. Requiring one to know the true answer to challenge the status quo isn’t all that different from poor religious reasonings. The stock market exhibits massive changes without much new information except information about the actions of other investors. You can similarly believe something is basically…

The market incorporates information into the price, not the other way around. Or in other words the price is the total aggregate of the information.

The market does incorporate new information into the price, but that doesn’t mean new business information is the only driver of the price, the largest driver of the price, or that the price is well set to begin with.

Consider the current state of the economy. People have lots of money with fewer places to put it. Lots of people just dump it into index funds. That means more shares of large companies are bought, which means the price of those shares is going to go up. This is happening as a fixed function based on total market cap. Did we really get any new information to believe that npv of future cash flows had gone up? Nah.

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