I know this is an apples and oranges comparison, but I just find it fascinating how value is derived in society. The current stock price, Slack's market cap is half of Tesla's. And, a lot of people think that Tesla is overvalued.
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#12I know this is an apples and oranges comparison, but I just find it fascinating how value is derived in society. The current stock price, Slack's market cap is half of Tesla's. And, a lot of people think that Tesla is overvalued.
Multiplying that stock price by the number of outstanding shares provides a number known as market capitalization, but it is not THE value that an organization provides to society.
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> assuming you used a market order, which you never should). Yeah I don't get why market orders even exist . If you're doing something that usually costs thousands to millions, is it ever a meaningful benefit to saving a click or two and a few keystrokes? If my broker had an option to remove my ability to do market orders (sell or buy) I would immediately enable that.
Would it still be called a market order if you were denominating the order in dollars-converted-at-moment-of-sale? I.e. "buy however many shares I would get for $500, I don't care how many or few that is at the time." That seems more useful, and still caps your losses, while offering something limit orders don't.
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#14I know this is an apples and oranges comparison, but I just find it fascinating how value is derived in society. The current stock price, Slack's market cap is half of Tesla's. And, a lot of people think that Tesla is overvalued.
Slack has essentially no marginal cost. Cars have massive marginal cost
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Slack has essentially no marginal cost. Cars have massive marginal cost
No marginal cost? What do you call operating expenses, AWS for example?
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No marginal cost? What do you call operating expenses, AWS for example?
Per user it is probably a few pennies per month if they are smart about it. Which is basically nothing as a percent of a single unit sale (subscribing user) compared to the marginal cost of selling cars
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No marginal cost? What do you call operating expenses, AWS for example?
Per user it is probably a few pennies per month if they are smart about it. Which is basically nothing as a percent of a single unit sale (subscribing user) compared to the marginal cost of selling cars
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Per user it is probably a few pennies per month if they are smart about it. Which is basically nothing as a percent of a single unit sale (subscribing user) compared to the marginal cost of selling cars
If it's a few pennies for month how are their operating expenses greater than their revenue? Have you even looked at their public filing or are you just making assumptions?
"Cost of revenue consists primarily of expenses related to hosting Slack and providing ongoing customer support for paid customers. These expenses include employee compensation (including stock-based compensation) and other employee-related expenses for customer experience and technical operations staff, payments to outside service providers, third-party hosting costs, payment processing fees, and amortization expense associated with internally-developed and purchased technology. We expect our cost of revenue to continue to increase in absolute dollar amounts as we grow our business and revenue."
That amortization could be significant; it's likely that they're not spending $5 in hosting and devops alone. It may not be pennies, but it's way less than the cost of a car.
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#19I’m curious how symbols are assigned. Most companies have symbols that are similar to their names. Can companies just choose anything they want? Or do you have to be a big player with connections to score a vanity symbol like this one?
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#20I know this is an apples and oranges comparison, but I just find it fascinating how value is derived in society. The current stock price, Slack's market cap is half of Tesla's. And, a lot of people think that Tesla is overvalued.
Never saw a Slack-Tesla or AOL-Exxon kind of mixture though.