In Japan, It’s a Riveting TV Plot: Can a Worker Go Home on Time?
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#3I once heard it said that employee overtime was like morphine for employers, because it masks the pain of organizational dysfunction. It's important to let your employer feel that pain so that they can become aware of what is wrong and fix it.
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#4As a fan of office-based dry comedies (The Office, Dreamland, W1A, etc), I'm curious if anyone has watched the show? If so, would you recommend it?
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#5I once heard it said that employee overtime was like morphine for employers, because it masks the pain of organizational dysfunction. It's important to let your employer feel that pain so that they can become aware of what is wrong and fix it.
It's important to let your employer feel that pain
Unless you're hourly.
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#6I once heard it said that employee overtime was like morphine for employers, because it masks the pain of organizational dysfunction. It's important to let your employer feel that pain so that they can become aware of what is wrong and fix it.
It's important to let your employer feel that pain Unless you're hourly.
Give it enough time and your hourly wages will amortize to cover this - what should now be a 75/hr tier will have remained at 60/hr because everyone gets paid that, working overtime, to get some job done that probably doesn't need overtime to get done.
Saw this in Oil and Gas industry among Engineers and Designers (the pipeline/wiring kind, not the UX kind), not sure if it's true for other industries though. Haven't worked contract in software yet to see for myself.
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#7>In addition to cultural attitudes about the value of hard work, she said, some employers reduce costs by relying on overtime, and employees work the longer hours for the extra pay and to please the boss — promotions often depend more on time spent at a desk than actual productivity.
Agggh hits to home. Arrogant American me rolled into a Taiwanese job expecting to skyrocket up the ladder on results alone. Nope, because I left at 5 sharp to enjoy the beautiful mountains, I was a lazy shit. Never mind my 10x increase in sales. Well, also I was an arrogant prick.
I chew on this issue a lot - it's bad to work so much. But, it's culturally ingrained. Some people are trying to change it... but it's happening so slowly. We have our own culturally ingrained things in America that I'd like to change as well, and that are changing, but so slowly. How do you implement change?
I guess that's the plot of any good fantasy or political drama, how do leaders convince people that change can be good?
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#8An interesting take on this in Spain recently was that unpaid overtime was effectively "robbing from state taxes", because those extra hours should have been paid and so contribute to the government coffers. This resulted in a law (mostly defanged, self reports and no real punishment) that companies must track the time employees spend at work.
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#9I remember a dialogue from The Cleveland show (yeah, that spin off which lasted few seasons" )
Cleveland as Japanese: " I am going to work 12 hours overtime, on top of the 10 hour daily work so that i can bring honor to my family"
Laughed really hard wondering who works like that, but guess the joke is on me :(
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#10An interesting take on this in Spain recently was that unpaid overtime was effectively "robbing from state taxes", because those extra hours should have been paid and so contribute to the government coffers. This resulted in a law (mostly defanged, self reports and no real punishment) that companies must track the time employees spend at work.
That argument doesn’t really make sense.