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Why Google+ Failed

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Re: Why Google+ Failed

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Any article there does not deserve to be read. You are not missing anything

That's not fair. Medium's content is community contributed. There's a lot of value in there. Let's not throw the baby with the water.

That community of content creators chose the platform for the benefits of discovery, SEO and convenience. While I agree that there's great content on Medium, those upsides come with a few downsites for content consumers and losing a few of them comes with the territory. It's still a net positive for creators anyway, otherwise Medium wouldn't be a thing.

Re: Why Google+ Failed

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post #9

I am sorry for the off topic comment but I can't even read this article because medium now shows me a "Sign up for an extra read" popup without any way of closing it. Medium is going so down the tubes, it's become impossible for me to read anything there. Does anyone have a way to bypass the sign up pop up?

I don't think there's any way around that pop up on a mobile browser.

You probably can block Javascript using uBlock Origin (for convenience) on supported mobile browsers.

Re: Why Google+ Failed

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I don't think it's important whether Google+ failed or whether Facebook declines or not.

The fundamental failure is by computer science or the IETF that there is no open standard for federated social networking. Some might say social networking is out of scope for academic research. But why was SMTP not out of scope when it was invented?

Re: Why Google+ Failed

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Nah dawg, Google+ failed because it didn't try to do any of the things that people who desired a different kind of social space might have wanted but couldn't get on Facebook at the time, perhaps things like anonymous accounts, private groups that didn't transitively leak information, or a space for collaboration on Google Docs. In other words, it made zero innovation over the incumbent, except for "circles", which was ill conceived.

Re: Why Google+ Failed

#35
The ranking system did kind of annoy me. We used G+ heavily inside of Google, and lots of interesting people posted interesting things. As time wore on, I felt like I got less and less of that stuff. A coworker would say "did you see so and so's G+ post" and I would go look for it and not be able to find it until I begged someone a link. I followed them. They followed me. The post had 300 +1s. But I could never see it.

The other thing I thought maybe killed G+ was the "ghost town" effect. Instead of forcing everyone to share everything publicly, people would just share with their close circles. So to an outside observer, it looked like a ghost town, but to the people using it, it seemed perfect.

In the end, I miss it. The people I interacted with on G+ were great. I met some people on the Internet that are now real-life friends. I could always post a random idea or a project I was working on and get feedback. Now I have nothing. Twitter seems like it's a place where people shout into the void about how far to the left or right they are. Facebook seems dead (I never used it). Blogging sites like Medium seem evil. So I just share random things with random friends on Discord. It's sad. G+ could have done so well.

Re: Why Google+ Failed

#36
For what it's worth, regarding the asymmetric interactions, if my memory serves me right, it seemed to be Google+ that made Facebook introduce the notion of "Following" people. They were a good idea, just not a substitute for symmetric relationships.

Re: Why Google+ Failed

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The ranking system did kind of annoy me. We used G+ heavily inside of Google, and lots of interesting people posted interesting things. As time wore on, I felt like I got less and less of that stuff. A coworker would say "did you see so and so's G+ post" and I would go look for it and not be able to find it until I begged someone a link. I followed them. They followed me. The post had 300 +1s. But I could never see i…

totally agree... (as a non google person.. just a normal user)

Re: Why Google+ Failed

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post #9

I am sorry for the off topic comment but I can't even read this article because medium now shows me a "Sign up for an extra read" popup without any way of closing it. Medium is going so down the tubes, it's become impossible for me to read anything there. Does anyone have a way to bypass the sign up pop up?

I don't think there's any way around that pop up on a mobile browser.

Safari reader mode?

Re: Why Google+ Failed

#40

>Project Hancock was the internal code name of the project designed to do this. It was going to set up a Google Plus account for every Google user. This is actually much more complicated than it sounds; it took a team of engineers somewhere around three months to accomplish it. What this bit glosses over is the PR disaster that was Google forcing Google+ down the throats of its unwilling users. For example, for years…

I probably would have been interested at some point had I started using it by my own initiative, but I got forced into Google+ by this project.

I didn't understand what it was (a bare bones Facebook clone? ), didn't have friends who used it and I can't remember if I saw no content or just only irrelevant content. I gave it maybe 15 minutes and never came back.

And I actually considered myself an interested user, at the time I used Facebook but hated it and still saw Google as a force for good.

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