The V Programming Language

Is there some sort of prize in the world of programming languages for coming up with names where you have to append "programming language" to every search query to find what you want?

If so, all the single letter languages are getting stomped by Go, which is already used for a verb, noun and a preexisting programming language [0].

The technology to pick new and easily searchable names has existed since it was invented in 2005 by computer scientist Randall Munroe of xkcd. Language designers should use it. There are still unique 4 letter combinations available!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go

Re: The V Programming Language

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Post by lifthrasiir » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:34 AM UTC

AndyKelley wrote: post #3

What happened to releasing the source code today? https://twitter.com/v_language/status/1137750611389288450

https://github.com/vlang/v says the source code will be released on 2019-06-22.

Re: The V Programming Language

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Post by keyle » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:34 AM UTC

I don't really get excited by new languages but I must say I really like what I'm seeing here going through the docs. This is what I wanted nim to be, but with the safety.

The standard library and package manager + packages will make or break V.

[edit] ow, not open source yet.

Re: The V Programming Language

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Post by letters90 » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:37 AM UTC

I'm curious but too lazy to look it up myself. SO I'll just ask.

How far does the 'linux' specification go. Say I want to run a V program on AIX what kind of libraries will I need?

What about the 'windows' specification. Do the redistributables support windows 2000/7/Vista/8/8.1/10

We have a lot of different systems on our clients, mac as well. It would be nice to read concrete requirements for running to really see how much effort rolling out a V application would be.

Re: The V Programming Language

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Post by 59nadir » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:38 AM UTC

I find these languages that are developed behind closed doors and have no source published a bit frustrating. Even more so when they make big promises.

Just like you can no longer charge for compiler, I don't think it's possible in the future to not publish the source. The truth is, there are plenty of actual open source alternatives to C (zig, et al.), what makes some shadowy language a reasonable alternative?

Re: The V Programming Language

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Post by kingkong2022 » Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:45 AM UTC

The claims in the homepage are completely refuted by the readme in the downloaded package. The compiler is not 400 kb dependency free. It requires shit ton of stuff. The codegen as well as hot code reloading is not present, so even the compiler performance claims and hcr on the homepage are lies. Even Rust like memory management that they claimed is not there. Volt is said to be written in Vlang using the UI present in this download. But the readme says that the UI package does not run on Linux, so how can Volt be written in Vlang?

Honesty I don't see why the hype behind Vlang and why so optimistic comments here.

Vlang feels worse than a pre alpha software with a good marketing team that is just trying to make money. It does not even have the features it claims it has. But just look at its patreon, it gets much more than odin lang, which IMO is much further into development than vlang is.

That said, it would not be so bad if the developer did not make false claims and just say that this is pre-alpha software, but instead he makes bold claims and fights for them aggresively (see issue by gingerbill linked elsewhere on this page), which can now be seen that all of them have been lies.

Edit: (posting my comment from below) https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/204914235-How-...

People with patreon accounts should report this guy.