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A janitor at Frito-Lay invented Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (2017)

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Re: A janitor at Frito-Lay invented Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (2017)

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Post by RandomBacon »

uponcoffee wrote: post #57
throwawaycanuck wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

You seem to be the one that is out of touch: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx

I think this arguement about words is stupid. It doesn't matter which one of you is right or wrong.

For what it's worth, I live in Houston (4th largest US city that has an enormous Latin American representation), and I have never heard the term "Latinx" before. Though now if I do, I now know what it means thanks to Hacker News.

Re: A janitor at Frito-Lay invented Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (2017)

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Post by eindiran »

g_sch wrote: post #60
throwawaycanuck wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

I'm interested (and somewhat taken aback) by the intensity of the reactions to this term. Maybe it's a generational/political thing? For my part, I know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx" than "Latino".

"Latinx" is more-or-less a rounding error compared to "Latino"/"Latina"[1], so having people insist that the far more common terms are incorrect (for a political reason) is what is driving the intensity of the reaction. I'm not saying the reaction is right or wrong, but afaict that's the reason people respond the way they do.

If you know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx", I'd wager that you probably live in the ideological bubble surrounding a fairly liberal American city, but there is certainly a generational component: the term is much more commonly used by American Millenials than by anyone else.

[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=latinx,latino,lat...

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Post by AbrahamParangi »

uponcoffee wrote: post #57
throwawaycanuck wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

You seem to be the one that is out of touch: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx

Cursory look at google trends suggest that latinx is a relatively uncommon term and that the term latino is approx. 30x more popular (https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=latino,lat...).

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Post by gamblor956 »

throwawaycanuck wrote: post #48
tylerhou wrote: post #41

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> At the end of the day, revenue-per-share is pretty indifferent to age, race, or gender. Except, as the article shows, diversity often does increase revenue share. Flamin' hot cheetos were invented by a Mexican immigrant who realized that Frito-Lay didn't have any products which appealed to Latino people. EDIT: Changed Latinx to Latino.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

I have only ever heard the term Latinx used in the context of the Latino/Latina LGBT community.

Vida, (a show about gentrification and lesbians in the Boyle Heights neighborhood of LA) markets itself as a Latinx show, not as a Hispanic show, though the showrunner identifies as Latina...

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Post by microcolonel »

mandelbrotwurst wrote: post #66
rosterface wrote: post #53

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My Mexican family loves Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (for real) and hates the term “latinx”. Just fyi but it’s considered racist in a lot of Mexican communities.

why is it considered racist? I can think of some arguments against the term but am having a hard time figuring that one out. Maybe because they perceive it as having been coined by people from outside their group and/or changing the topic to focus on gender > racial justice?

As an outsider, I imagine it has something to do with it being a term coined to pander to white leftists so that they can confirm their unique, bizarre self hatred without doing anything meaningful to help anyone.

Don't know if I'd call it "racist", but I can see why some people find it tiresome and obnoxious.

Re: A janitor at Frito-Lay invented Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (2017)

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Post by Phrodo_00 »

g_sch wrote: post #60
throwawaycanuck wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

I'm interested (and somewhat taken aback) by the intensity of the reactions to this term. Maybe it's a generational/political thing? For my part, I know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx" than "Latino".

I'm from south america, been living in the US for a bit, and never encountered the term. Kind of curious to know where it comes from, and why it has a strong reaction.

I feel like it's probably trying to include both genders, since spanish doesn't have a neutral gender, and that normally annoys me, since it's normally pretty clear when you mean actually-male or neutral-male, but I'm not necessarily against it.

People from around where I come from would've probably gone with latin@, though.

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Post by pram »

g_sch wrote: post #60
throwawaycanuck wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Latinx There is no faster way to discredit your argument than using absurd language like latinx. I've yet to meet a latino person who referred to themselves as anything else.

I'm interested (and somewhat taken aback) by the intensity of the reactions to this term. Maybe it's a generational/political thing? For my part, I know significantly more people who refer to themselves as "Latinx" than "Latino".

I don’t like being called Chicano, Latin, or Hispanic. It’s seemingly only a US thing afaict. My family is from Mexico and “Mexican” suffices.

It seems like they’re just terms to lump a bunch of legitimately different people and cultures into a single, convenient demographic. That’s how I feel about it anyway. Not saying people shouldn’t identify with it, if that’s how they feel. :V

Re: A janitor at Frito-Lay invented Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (2017)

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Post by wil421 »

rosterface wrote: post #53
tylerhou wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At the end of the day, revenue-per-share is pretty indifferent to age, race, or gender. Except, as the article shows, diversity often does increase revenue share. Flamin' hot cheetos were invented by a Mexican immigrant who realized that Frito-Lay didn't have any products which appealed to Latino people. EDIT: Changed Latinx to Latino.

My Mexican family loves Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (for real) and hates the term “latinx”. Just fyi but it’s considered racist in a lot of Mexican communities.

What should you say if you don’t know the person is Mexican? Hispanic?

I’ve had non- correct me when I said Mexican but I knew the person was actually Mexican. What gives?

Re: A janitor at Frito-Lay invented Flamin’ Hot Cheetos (2017)

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Post by whycombagator »

JimBrimble35 wrote: post #17

The real hero of this story is the CEO who decided to take this guy _and_ his idea. He could have easily taken the idea and ran with it on his own, with Montañez spending the rest of his life mopping floors. I wonder how likely this scenario would be in today's world. I have found personally that many companies are unwilling to take risks on employees who aren't formally qualified, even if they demonstrate the skills…

I partly agree. But I think the CEO is an equal hero, not the "real hero". The CEO accepted the call, listened, and entertained an idea from a janitor. That's part of what makes the story impressive to me
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