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They took the feedback to heart, built fast, and got paying users! Where's the big mistake there? I think one of the good things about YC, is if you try to optimize for getting into YC, you're actually building your startup in a constructive manner.
They might have just killed their MAU growth potential Imagine if FB had a premium plan in 2008, they wouldn’t have made it. In this case it probably makes sense to charge early on, but it doesn’t look like they did much research on the decision
We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
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Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#92> Two months later we got an email saying that a partner would like to speak to us.
This is a tangent, but I want to share something about my YC interview experience for anybody ever in this position.
I filled out my application in February for the NYC interviews. They passed on me for the early NYC interviews, but ~2 months later I got an email for Mountain View interview.
During my interview, I was asked what my revenue was two months ago, and what it was last month. When I gave my answers it created immediate disarray between the three interviewers.
I walked through my numbers and could tell something was visibly wrong, but time was ticking and I had to steer back to the product, vision and growth.
When I got my rejection email, the lead-in reason was that the revenue wasn't clear (and to clarify, we are doing VERY well with revenue growth).
A bit perplexed, I went back to my application and realized what had happened. The YC application asks for "what was your revenue last month, two months ago, three months ago, etc)"
The partner was trying to get me to talk about what caused a 100% revenue spike (and again, we're not talking about small revenue here) between February and March. But when filling the answers out in February, those questions are anchored to December and January. That spike was just onboarding customers.
As I personally had to live through the hell of onboarding these customers from December to January, it never occurred to me that he was asking about that spike while looking at my "last month" and "two months ago" revenue.
I read my application a lot the week leading up to my interview. It never occurred to me change my answers to realign with the two month gap between when I filled it out and when it was accepted. I'm not sure I would even do that now, knowing what happened.
So the upshot is this: if you fill out your YC application well in advance, be prepared to speak to your financials (and company as a whole) both as are they are today, but also as they appear in your application, because the answer to "what was your revenue last month" is different depending on whether the partner is referring to your application, or the last calendar month.
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#93So, that's the dichotomy of YC. YC is an accelerator, and as such, needs to accelerate /something/. If you join too early, then it's almost a distraction to getting the product out and talking to users. However, hit the sweet spot and YC is an invaluable resource to help you grow. On the other hand, YC opens the door to so many opportunities and great people, that even if you're too early, the net result is still a p…
Now this is my opinion. I start a startup to be my own boss and change the world on my OWN terms. Why the hell, should I go to YC to hire a boss?
To grow faster? To learn how to grow?
BULLSHITT! I can do both of those without their help -- call me arrogant, I don't care.
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
They took the feedback to heart, built fast, and got paying users! Where's the big mistake there? I think one of the good things about YC, is if you try to optimize for getting into YC, you're actually building your startup in a constructive manner.
They might have just killed their MAU growth potential Imagine if FB had a premium plan in 2008, they wouldn’t have made it. In this case it probably makes sense to charge early on, but it doesn’t look like they did much research on the decision
How would you even research such a decision if not ask very experience startup founders and investors?
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#95missiveapp.com and conferenceBadge.com, my two startups, have both been rejected at the interview phase. Our yearly revenue for both now stands in the 7 digits. We are still just a team of 3 + 1 employee, 100% bootstrapped. Life is good. My advice, keep pushing! https://missiveapp.com/ https://www.conferencebadge.com
Apropos of nothing, this little marketing page is pretty great -- https://www.conferencebadge.com/why-use-conference-badge
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#96missiveapp.com and conferenceBadge.com, my two startups, have both been rejected at the interview phase. Our yearly revenue for both now stands in the 7 digits. We are still just a team of 3 + 1 employee, 100% bootstrapped. Life is good. My advice, keep pushing! https://missiveapp.com/ https://www.conferencebadge.com
I gotta say your Medium post about Missive being a hybrid app and beating native UIs in many aspects was pretty inspiring.
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
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I gotta say your Medium post about Missive being a hybrid app and beating native UIs in many aspects was pretty inspiring.
please share a link
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#98At first I was with them, but when they summarized at the end I think they missed the underlying point of the feedback. The feedback was “why have you waited so long” not “this was too early for you to apply” The fact that the founders bent that around in their heads after changing their actions, to me, indicates they aren’t quite getting what the email implied. But what do I know, I’ve never gotten in to YCombinator…
I think they got the point precisely
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#99So, that's the dichotomy of YC. YC is an accelerator, and as such, needs to accelerate /something/. If you join too early, then it's almost a distraction to getting the product out and talking to users. However, hit the sweet spot and YC is an invaluable resource to help you grow. On the other hand, YC opens the door to so many opportunities and great people, that even if you're too early, the net result is still a p…
Hey Dom, we worked together directly when you were in YC, and I deeply disagree with your assessment that having progress helps a startup succeed in YC. The worst case scenario is a newly accepted YC startup with a little bit of traction... just enough traction that they aren't willing to change ideas/markets and not enough traction for them to actually know they have product market fit. It's the uncanny valley of pr…
May I ask which speed exactly you are referring to?
Re: We tried to hustle our way into YC after we got rejected
#100I thought YC main thing was growth not revenue. Why did they get rejected for revenue? Also making someone fly overseas for a 10 minute interview to get rejected really sucks. I hate the all day interview, but if you are coming from overseas then maybe give them more than 10 mins.
The flying overseas for a 10 minute reject interview shows they don't value your time.