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Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

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Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#152

"He watched videos of people playing with human fetuses, and says he learned that they are allowed on Facebook “as long as the skin is translucent.” Wow. Just Wow.

This sounds like a fantastic example of basing moral guidelines around what is easy for a computer to detect rather than what is actually moral.

We know that FB has nudity detection systems, due to their past problems with banning breastfeeding discussion groups.

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#153
post #19

I live in East Wall, Dublin -- beside the Facebook moderator (The Beckett) building. I wonder if this is true for them as well or if it's just N. America -- we've better employment protections and minimum wage in Ireland compared to the US.

The Irish Times recently published a similar story:

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/facebook-s-d...

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#154

NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.

Do any companies use something more like a blackmailer's NDA, which works without a legal system?

I'm not sure exactly how it would work, and perhaps it wouldn't work in practice, but I imagine it might involve paying the (former) employee a certain sum every month for their continued cooperation, and the employer would reserve the right to unilaterally cancel the arrangement: it would be "discretionary" or whatever. So the employee has a motive to cooperate (unless they're terminally ill ...) but there's nothing to "enforce".

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#155

I read the bit about the children having their organs harvested while alive and didn’t believe it so I did some googling and now I’m done for the day. I’m gonna go hug my kids.

I'll take your word and skip on the googling myself. Seriously disturbing stuff.

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#156

The issue is not as much Cognizant or FB as it is the state of the public. The horrible acts posted online for entertainment by the public is the reason for companies like Cognizant. I hope these posts can forwarded to local law enforcement and the posts used as evidence against the poster.

As evidence of what?

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

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post #3

Just a warning - I found even a short description of some of the videos they had to watch fairly disturbing. I don't think I could do that job for very long - let alone in a badly run, high pressure environment with low wages.

There's a lot of variance between individuals. Given the choice this sounds like an overall better job than working a busy McDonald's drive through (people are assholes when they're hungry) but I'm not the kind of person that's particularly bothered by graphic violence. My opinion of humanity is dark enough to accommodate it. I'm sure many people would prefer McDonald's though. Some of the people interviewed were com…

Like your dream life—I bet facebook is hiring.

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#158

Maybe censoring is not effective? Why not to embrace any content and just make police raids when someone uploads questionable content? Is censorship solves anything?

How does that change the problems in the article? You would still need people looking at questionable content to decide when to call the police.

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#159
If they made engineers take turns working in the content moderation you would soon see all sorts of improvements (like the aforementioned ability to recognize duplicate content for starters).

They would hate it so much, that would make better tooling. But now they don't have to know about it, just send images to the moderation team over and over like they are robots.

Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions

#160
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, if the job involves risks to mental health!

Queue up the next Verge article in 6 months: "Facebook discriminates on the basis of mental health"

I mean they really should be in this case. This is not a normal job.
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