Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
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Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#2NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#3Just a warning - I found even a short description of some of the videos they had to watch fairly disturbing.
I don't think I could do that job for very long - let alone in a badly run, high pressure environment with low wages.
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#4NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.
I think you're painting with a very broad brush there.
NDAs and non-competes have their uses. It's when they become part of the default boilerplate that everyone signs to get a job that the problems start.
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#5NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.
I think you're painting with a very broad brush there. NDAs and non-competes have their uses. It's when they become part of the default boilerplate that everyone signs to get a job that the problems start.
> NDAs and non-competes have their uses
I have yet to see a valid use that does not hinder whistle-blowing, the advancement of technology, or does not abuse the employees. I am sure that you will find a few valid use-cases if you try hard enough, however in the vast majority of cases they are used in order to repress the rights of others.
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#6NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.
Some NDA's can be too broad, but this is a bad take. It needs to be possible to hire people that you trust not to disclose all your secrets, and your customer's secrets. This is what privacy regulations are all about. (At Facebook in particular, disclosing stuff about users is pretty bad, see lots of news stories over the last few years.)
The balance between protecting privacy and making abuses public is pretty nuanced and doesn't lend itself to one-bit thinking.
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#7NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.
If there were no NDAs then companies would exploit patent, trademarks and copywrite even more than they already do. If they kept NDAs limited to trade secrets then there wouldn't be a problem
I think Non-competes should be limited to while youre actually working there
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#8There seems to be a very distinct difference between employee classes. Management and high value tech employees are treated very well while moderators, gig workers etc are treated as "human resources", quite literally.
It seems to me that they put companies like Cognizant between them and the exploited workers to deflect criticism as "we didn't know, we've been told by our partners that everything is great".
And on a technical level: if true, how can it be that FB needs the same videos and pictures to be moderated over and over? Are they not using any form of content id? Is developing such a system more expensive than running content moderation sites and then swiftly firing the burnt out moderators?
At what point do you become complicit if you're working for Facebook?
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#9NDAs and non-compete agreements should not ever be considered as valid contracts by the government.
Some NDA's can be too broad, but this is a bad take. It needs to be possible to hire people that you trust not to disclose all your secrets, and your customer's secrets. This is what privacy regulations are all about. (At Facebook in particular, disclosing stuff about users is pretty bad, see lots of news stories over the last few years.) The balance between protecting privacy and making abuses public is pretty nuanc…
Which privacy regulations protect corporations more than they protect actual meat people?
Re: Facebook moderators break NDAs to expose working conditions
#10There were many reasons that led to me deleting my Facebook account in May, 2018. The fact that the platform is a magnet for the absolute worst of humanity and then employs and exploits people in such an inhumane and cavalier way to filter the garbage out was high on the list. Get Zuckerberg to do the job for a few hours and see what he thinks.