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About 2M People Rally in Hong Kong Weekend Protests

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> This is a small world, whether we like it or not, and letting authoritarian stuff like this extradition treaty to a dictatorship slide A while ago a plane arrived in Fiji half-filled with Chinese police officers. They arrested 77 supposedly Chinese nationals, put them on the plane, and took them back to China. This was all extra-judicial. None of the 77 were arrested, charged, or convicted by the Fijian justice sys…

As a Chinese I think the Chinese police officers are doing a great job.

I really like people when they comment without doing research and just feed their hatred. The event in Fiji IS about online scammers, and thousands of people in China have suffered from these scams. These scammers are, unfortunately, mostly organized by Taiwanese because conveniently we use the same language. They are usually released in days when sent back to Taiwan. Fortunately Chinese police office does a good job, and work with local government to crack down these activities. These criminals reside in African countries and South east countries because the law enforcement there is technologically limited. I understand people hate Chinese government (you are not a happy person anyway), but using wrong evidence to back up your claim is just appalling.

If you are looking for political dissenters, they are mostly in Europe, Canada, and sometimes U.S. Never in third-world countries.

Re: About 2M People Rally in Hong Kong Weekend Protests

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This is the sort of thing predicted by Hans Hermann Hoppe's "Democracy: The God that Failed", the basic premise of which is that short term leaders as found in democracies will try to get as much as they can in the short time they have, whereas lifetime leaders as in monarchies will treat the country more like a property owner would his own property. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy:_The_God_That_Failed

We've come full circle. I never thought I would see someone unironically support monarchy in 2019, much less cite Hans Hermann Hope as an actual source. Hacker News! A place for hackers, people who want freedom to explore new technologies, disrupt industries, and evaluate other hackers based on their merit alone. God the Internet has gone downhill. Democracy is messy and complicated, but lifetime leaders are not the…

> do not align with hacker culture at all.

ahem Linus .. Guido ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life

Re: About 2M People Rally in Hong Kong Weekend Protests

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Also, yellow vests protests at the top were less than 200k people, in a country of tens of millions. The only reason they made the news is because protests were violent.

First the yellow never realy made headlines. The focus on the violent parts is intentional. HK poor people repressive police, France poor police violent protestors. Both are supposedly peaceful with clashes with the police. In France. 15 protestors dead, 0 policeman. 4000 injured. 8000 arrested. Estimation was 282k one single time, and after lower than that. But it has been continuous, with people every week all over…

> First the yellow never realy made headlines.

In Italy, they made headlines for months. The italian vice-premier went to talk with some random GJ leaders. Parties from the italian far right and far left went to demonstrate with the GJ.

If it didn't make the news where you live, I'm very surprised.

Re: About 2M People Rally in Hong Kong Weekend Protests

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post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the sort of thing predicted by Hans Hermann Hoppe's "Democracy: The God that Failed", the basic premise of which is that short term leaders as found in democracies will try to get as much as they can in the short time they have, whereas lifetime leaders as in monarchies will treat the country more like a property owner would his own property. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy:_The_God_That_Failed

We've come full circle. I never thought I would see someone unironically support monarchy in 2019, much less cite Hans Hermann Hope as an actual source. Hacker News! A place for hackers, people who want freedom to explore new technologies, disrupt industries, and evaluate other hackers based on their merit alone. God the Internet has gone downhill. Democracy is messy and complicated, but lifetime leaders are not the…

I don't support monarchies. Neither does Hoppe, or this book. He proposes only that monarchies are better than democracies, which he also doesn't endorse. I myself don't have a strong opinion on the question. I was referencing, without endorsing, an interesting theoretical explanation for the observation made in the parent comment.
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