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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Where Is It?

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I remember watching the American news media go crazy over this airplane for around 1 month every night. The CNN anchor Don Lemon asked one of the 6 guests on his panel whether it was possible that the plane had been sucked into a black hole.

Dear god, you were not joking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpVd7k1Uw6A

A small black hole would destroy our entire universe apparently

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> Forensic examinations of Zaharie’s simulator by the FBI revealed that he experimented with a flight profile roughly matching that of MH370—a flight north around Indonesia followed by a long run to the south, ending in fuel exhaustion over the Indian Ocean. Malaysian investigators dismissed this flight profile as merely one of several hundred that the simulator had recorded. That is true, as far as it goes, which is…

This seems as close to a smoking gun as we're ever likely to get.

One interesting counterargument is brought up in a rebuttal at https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-atlantics-william-langewie... .

The rebuttal piece mostly just flames Langewiesche, and it doesn't offer any support for any competing theories. But it does pose one question I haven't seen addressed. Why, if Zaharie wanted to commit suicide by flying into the middle of nowhere, didn't he turn right instead of left?

His route took him through populated airspace for no apparent reason. If numerous authorities in multiple countries hadn't been asleep at the switch, there would have been no mystery at all about what happened.

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> Forensic examinations of Zaharie’s simulator by the FBI revealed that he experimented with a flight profile roughly matching that of MH370—a flight north around Indonesia followed by a long run to the south, ending in fuel exhaustion over the Indian Ocean. Malaysian investigators dismissed this flight profile as merely one of several hundred that the simulator had recorded. That is true, as far as it goes, which is…

This seems as close to a smoking gun as we're ever likely to get. One interesting counterargument is brought up in a rebuttal at https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-atlantics-william-langewie... . The rebuttal piece mostly just flames Langewiesche, and it doesn't offer any support for any competing theories. But it does pose one question I haven't seen addressed. Why, if Zaharie wanted to commit suicide by flying into…

Maybe he was hoping to get intercepted, not be completely ignored. That would make his last flight even more epic.

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> Forensic examinations of Zaharie’s simulator by the FBI revealed that he experimented with a flight profile roughly matching that of MH370—a flight north around Indonesia followed by a long run to the south, ending in fuel exhaustion over the Indian Ocean. Malaysian investigators dismissed this flight profile as merely one of several hundred that the simulator had recorded. That is true, as far as it goes, which is…

It is kind of funny that someone in Roanoke is doing extensive analysis on MH370

The reference here is to the Lost Colony of Roanoke Island, in present day Dare County, North Carolina.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony#Lost_Colony

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How do you do that when power is ultimately controlled by a bank of physical breakers?

Maybe power it the way the black box is powered, a stand alone system that transmits location and data that is typically also logged to the black boxes. I'm sure satellite coverage is an issue with getting data in remote areas, maybe SpaceX's StarLink system could provide a way to stream data from airliners in more locations.

No I'm asking how do you put attribution to the physical flipping of a breaker especially against someone just cutting the whole electrical system out at the same time with a master breaker.

Satellite coverage isn't really an issue there's already stuff like Inmarsat's network that covers all but basically the poles. [0] Has SpaceX advertised or said anything about covering the poles? I doubt they will just because there are so few customers.

[0] https://www.inmarsat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Inmarsat...

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I enjoyed this write up by Langewiesche, but the one thing that bothered me was the credence lent to the depressurization event without disclosing what if any evidence there is that it happened? Is there some? In the article he simply says "circumstances suggest" by which I assume he means the climb to 40k feet.

Shutting down most/all of the electrical systems on the plane suggests depressurization. Also it just makes sense to do so; a plane full of dead people can't engage in heroics to save the day. And he might have seen it as the humane thing to do, rather than leave people in fear for hours up to the actual crash.

But agreed that there's no hard evidence for this, or even for much of the entire story. Just a bunch of circumstantial evidence that suggests a lot.

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Langewiesche's a great author but this article doesn't add much in the way of new information from all the writing of the past three years. One off the record source about the pilot's mental state, that's about it. I happen to agree with his speculative conclusion, deliberate action by the pilot, but there's not really anything significant and new here to support it.

I thought it was valuable. I'd on-and-off casually followed news of the disappearance for months afterward, but I don't think I'd read anything before that ties everything known together. The writing was also excellent and gripping.

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I remember watching the American news media go crazy over this airplane for around 1 month every night. The CNN anchor Don Lemon asked one of the 6 guests on his panel whether it was possible that the plane had been sucked into a black hole.

Back when this happened, me and a friend spent some time coming up with the most ridiculous conspiracy theories about how the plane disappeared , just for fun. The best one that I could invent with was that MH370 flew right next to another plane in order to appear as a single, really big plane on the radar.

A few weeks later my stupid conspiracy theory was all over the media thanks to a blogger who proposed the same thing (but not as a joke, apparently) [1][2][3]

[1] https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-03-19/reality-check-could-m...

[2] http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/03/5-not-so-crazy-malays...

[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26609687

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It is kind of funny that someone in Roanoke is doing extensive analysis on MH370

The reference here is to the Lost Colony of Roanoke Island, in present day Dare County, North Carolina. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony#Lost_Colony

Although I am quite familiar with Roanoke, VA. I didn't get that at first, thanks for pointing it out. I thought you were making some kind of redneck joke.

Incidentally it is 343 miles from Roanoke VA to Roanoke Island, NC.

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