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Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

VB6_Forever wrote: post #17
cool-RR wrote: post #6

I wonder, why are they doing this? I mean, the reason tech companies go to Israel is because there's an enormous concentration of talent there. Why would they go to Palestine? I don't think there's any talent there. Is this a humanitarian thing? I'd be happy to hear first-hand experiences from people who worked with Palestinian developers or with software produced by Palestinian developers.

Hmmm declaring the people of a territory you occupy to be less talented than your own people. Reminds me of something

"a territory you occupy"

Last I heard, the jury was still out on whose land it is.

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by VB6_Forever »

cool-RR wrote: post #26
VB6_Forever wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmmm declaring the people of a territory you occupy to be less talented than your own people. Reminds me of something

That's a completely trollish comment.

Dehumanising 'others' allows people to do unjust acts with a clear conscience. The flimsy anecdotal evidence you gave as the basis for your dismissal of the Palestinian people suggests to me that you are not so clever or talented as you may think.

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by [deleted] »

mixmax wrote: post #23
jacobmg wrote: post #11

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That is trolling. All you're doing is reciting your standard "Israel is evil occupier" routine typical of someone of a certain political bias. No sources or added incite. It is however a fact, that since a high percentage of suicide bombers came out of Palestinian territories when compared to other countries, it is accurate to imply that a different economic course could diminish the terrorist aspect of the Palestini…

I've never writen a political comment on HN before, and probably never will again. But this is one of these rare occassions where I really feel the need to do so, knowing it'll probably cost me karma and goodwill. Anyway... Of course there's a high percentage of suicide bombers in Palestine - it's their only option against an oppressive regime. They don't have tanks, they don't have fighter planes and they don't have…

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Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by VB6_Forever »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #41
VB6_Forever wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmmm declaring the people of a territory you occupy to be less talented than your own people. Reminds me of something

"a territory you occupy" Last I heard, the jury was still out on whose land it is.

I don't have a fixed view on the issue of Palestine and Israel. Doesn't Israel have military control over the West Bank?

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by mixmax »

cool-RR wrote: post #27
mixmax wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never writen a political comment on HN before, and probably never will again. But this is one of these rare occassions where I really feel the need to do so, knowing it'll probably cost me karma and goodwill. Anyway... Of course there's a high percentage of suicide bombers in Palestine - it's their only option against an oppressive regime. They don't have tanks, they don't have fighter planes and they don't have…

No one here said the Palestinians don't have a good reason for doing suicide bombings. We'll all just be happier if they'll have a good economy so they'll stop blowing up.

I agree. And the first step to having a good economy is personal freedom and the ability to freely buy and sell goods across your border.

All of which Israel denies the Palestinians.

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by _pius »

endtime wrote: post #34
talbina wrote: post #5

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On the other hand, your government's policies have stifled Palestinians in both regions, in food, shelter, security, and basic medical care. It's kind of hard to produce anything when your house is demolished by bulldozers and your town's farm is burned. This sort of thing is how a viable Palestinian state is going to come about, if ever.

This is the kind of pointless, irrelevant, tired rhetoric that belongs on reddit. I really expected better of HN than to upvote this kind of comment.

The comment is quite relevant and it's not "rhetoric" ... it's precisely true. Israel may or may not be justified in its actions, but it has taken actions that have lead to all of the things the parent mentioned.

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

VB6_Forever wrote: post #44
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"a territory you occupy" Last I heard, the jury was still out on whose land it is.

I don't have a fixed view on the issue of Palestine and Israel. Doesn't Israel have military control over the West Bank?

Israel also has military control over the Negev (Southern District). Few would say that Israel 'occupies' that region -- just like England doesn't 'occupy' Sussex.

I have no opinion about what to do with the West Bank, but by saying that it is 'occupied' by Israel, I feel you're implying that Israel's presence there is unjustified.

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by VB6_Forever »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #47
VB6_Forever wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a fixed view on the issue of Palestine and Israel. Doesn't Israel have military control over the West Bank?

Israel also has military control over the Negev (Southern District). Few would say that Israel 'occupies' that region -- just like England doesn't 'occupy' Sussex. I have no opinion about what to do with the West Bank, but by saying that it is 'occupied' by Israel, I feel you're implying that Israel's presence there is unjustified.

The people of Sussex have long felt themselves to belong to the English nation. Israel captured the West bank in a war. I doubt that the population of the west bank will ever be assimilated and become patriotic Israelis. Religion, let alone nationalism, guarantees this I'd say. Israel (and the US) will eventually tire of having to use the army to control the population. Eventually Israel will have to give it up imo

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

VB6_Forever wrote: post #48
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel also has military control over the Negev (Southern District). Few would say that Israel 'occupies' that region -- just like England doesn't 'occupy' Sussex. I have no opinion about what to do with the West Bank, but by saying that it is 'occupied' by Israel, I feel you're implying that Israel's presence there is unjustified.

The people of Sussex have long felt themselves to belong to the English nation. Israel captured the West bank in a war. I doubt that the population of the west bank will ever be assimilated and become patriotic Israelis. Religion, let alone nationalism, guarantees this I'd say. Israel (and the US) will eventually tire of having to use the army to control the population. Eventually Israel will have to give it up imo

"Israel captured the West bank in a war."

Israel captured it from Jordan in 1967, which had taken it in 1948. Jordan's occupance was recognized by practically noone. Up until that time, it had been part of the British Mandate of 1922, which was an international effort to create a Jewish state.

"The territory now known as the West Bank was a part of the British Mandate of Palestine entrusted to the United Kingdom by the League of Nations after World War I. The terms of the Mandate called for the creation in Palestine of a Jewish national home without prejudicing the civil and religious rights of the non-Jewish population of Palestine. During that time the area was called by the historic names of its two regions -- Judea and Samaria." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_bank#History

"Judea (from the Hebrew: יהודה, "Tribe of Judah") was the name of the mountainous southern part of the historic Land of Israel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea

"Samaria (Hebrew: שֹׁמְרוֹן‎) is a term used for a mountainous region roughly corresponding to the northern part of the West Bank. [..] "Samaria" derives from an ancient city of the same name, which was located near the south of Samaria, and was the capital of the Kingdom of Israel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samari

Re: Google To Invest Millions in Palestine

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Post by cagey »

It will be exceedingly interesting to watch the progress/outcome of this investment (if Google chooses to share honestly, something that's clearly optional). The best indication of the actual ROI of this investment will be whether further investments are forthcoming (although Google could pour a few tens of millions USD down a hole and not notice). Anyone know if Google has invested comparable amounts in Lebanon, Syria or Libya?
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