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Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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Some of the higher end luxury cars have little touchscreens that look like buttons on the same place where you'd expect the button, with tactile feedback to mimic a physical button. Good luck with that in 20 years or so...

no one owns a car for 20 years anymore so it's probably not a concern.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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Praise to Mazda for making this decision. As a User Experience Professional, I was never able to grasp the true user's need for touch screens in cars. For years I have been working on product interfaces (not just apps). Many studies I conducted actually told me that people favored analog controls over digital touch screens controls. It gives you tactile feedback, making it accessible for anyone with sense of touch. >…

I have an older Sebring from 2010 with only 25k miles on it I was able to snag up for a good deal. Was a nicer 'limited' one so it still had a newer touch screen console.

It is annoying as you touch it once to 'activate' it and then have to tap the screen a second time to register the press on whatever button/input you were trying to touch.

No tactile feedback and having to press it twice and visually check to make sure the input you wanted worked.

It is much more time consuming/distracting than an older vehicle in my personal experience.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

#293
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See this 2014 article about a good car UI with touchscreens [0]; though it may take some getting used to. Switching back to analog controls and buttons is a sane move in that respect. [0] https://matthaeuskrenn.com/new-car-ui ; and HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7261003

I that guy suggesting multitouch on a car touchscreen? That seems terrible. I find just swipe scrolling extremely awkward at arm's length (and this is with CarPlay so it's not just due to weird car UI acceleration curves)

Multitouch is easier to do blind, instead of having to focus on the screen though.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

#294

Praise to Mazda for making this decision. As a User Experience Professional, I was never able to grasp the true user's need for touch screens in cars. For years I have been working on product interfaces (not just apps). Many studies I conducted actually told me that people favored analog controls over digital touch screens controls. It gives you tactile feedback, making it accessible for anyone with sense of touch. >…

Whole windshield should a screen and we should be able to just wave at it to perform operation or simply talk to it.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

#295
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Tesla should really take some notes here.

I wonder what some analysis on driver focus, concentration and eye movement would reveal when comparing Tesla, especially Model 3, drivers vs. drivers of cars with physical buttons and blind operations.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

#296
Touchscreens in cars are all about reducing cost for the manufacturer.

They are less safe, less convenient to use than physical controls.

The manufacturers know this, but they don't care.

I believe most customers also currently like them because touchscreens are a relatively new technology, and they are a fad.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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> why you don't program on a tablet I dare you to go tell that to /r/apple :)

All "how to use tablet as development machines" I saw were just "how to connect keyboard to tablet and connect to remote computer".

"how to use a table as development machine" has the unsurprising answer: "have a real computer do it".

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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Agree, except when you need to type a name.

When you need to type a full name. Having a keyboard present could give a huge advantage. This is not equal to having a touch screen. Next to that, my car has a system where you choose 1 letter and only the next possibility pops up. It decreases the need of a full keyboard. It's quite likely you only need to choose the first 3 to 4 letters.

I wonder if you’ve used Tesla’s touchscreen or even Apple CarPlay with a touchscreen and Google Maps. You only seem to mention these old UIs. The rotary control on a virtual keyboard is atrocious to type addresses and points of interest.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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> Good. There is a reason you don't see apple like designed plane cockpit. But Mazda's cockpit isn't plane cockpit either. Please go for a test drive with new Mazda 3 and you will be surpised how stupid is this decision. If you want to volume up, change a song, yes, it is easy. But if you want for example turn on GPS navigation, you need to use this wheel near the gearbox to: - leave a radio interface (you must look…

You shouldn't be doing anything like that while driving. Also if it's physical in any way you can build accurate muscle memory and know without looking that you have gone to the right spot. This is almost never the case with touch screens interfaces. There is no safe way to interface with a screen while driving. You are taking your eyes off the road, and your focus goes with it necessarily. The safest option is no sc…

> You shouldn't be doing anything like that while driving.

What does that have to do with anything? The touchscreen controls for most of that aren't even enabled when driving.

But on the Mazda you can't even do these things with the touchscreen while NOT driving.

Re: Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles

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I am reminded of a quote I read lately referring to now Ford CEO’s Jim Hackett’s research in understanding the automotive industry (he came from outside the industry). Specifically: when it comes to cars, people LOVE their cars.

Someone’s relationship with their car is very intimate and personal, in many ways more so then a house.

Much of the discussion I am seeing in this thread is very passionate, which confirms the above observation.

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