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U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid

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"For the past year, energy companies in the United States and oil and gas operators across North America discovered their networks had been examined by the same Russian hackers who successfully dismantled the safety systems in 2017 at Petro Rabigh, a Saudi petrochemical plant and oil refinery." Why are these systems even connected to the internet? Decades ago, creating such connections might have been a forgivable ov…

Convenience will trump security at the first opportunity unless extraordinarily stringent procedures and checks of those procedures are in place. "Well it was costing us an extra ten minutes every day so we just brought a router from home and hooked it up" is a situation I run into almost constantly.

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"For the past year, energy companies in the United States and oil and gas operators across North America discovered their networks had been examined by the same Russian hackers who successfully dismantled the safety systems in 2017 at Petro Rabigh, a Saudi petrochemical plant and oil refinery." Why are these systems even connected to the internet? Decades ago, creating such connections might have been a forgivable ov…

Internet connected or not they'll always be vulnerable.

More or less vulnerable is the question though.

Given the state of play with security, a connection to the internet is pretty much going to always be more vulnerable.

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The USG is insane. The evidence of Russian interference in our elections is not that impressive and it probably didn't have much impact (compared with Clinton sending American advisors and billions to Yeltsin in the 90s).

Instead, to paper over the decrepit nature of the American political system, they are attacking civilian infrastructure in a nuclear armed nation. Insanity.

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Despite having received 18 votes in 5 hours and while never having advanced beyond page 3 on the list of trending links (position #67 currently), this piece trails behind another Times piece, "Why don't more American men take paternity leave?", which is on page 2 (position #45 currently), and which has received only 6 votes in the span of 8 hours. WTF

It got a software penalty, probably correctly, because this topic is unfortunately more likely to lead nationalistic flamewar than thoughtful discussion. But let's try taking the penalty off and seeing. By the way, you can't derive story rank from points and submission time—HN's system is more complex than that. That's all that "WTF" means here.

I know you can't really talk about it in detail but that sounds like an interesting way of filtering posts.

Which is a shame because I'm sure it is fascinating.

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