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I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by toomuchtodo »

marcinzm wrote: post #16
xfitm3 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being able to read and debug code is a different skillset from first hand development.

If you're depending on open source software then you also need to be able to fix the code in question. And do so in a way which the project would accept. Otherwise, your bug report may linger until the end of time.

Then hire for software engineering. Don't lie to candidates that it's a systems admin or devops role.

It's pathetic employers keep demanding more skill and free work for the same pay.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by vonmoltke »

opportune wrote: post #18
vonmoltke wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I search for software engineering interviews if I'm applying to be an IT systems engineer?

I guess there is a disconnect where some people don't think dev-ops people are software engineers and others do. I fall in the latter camp and have never worked with devops people who weren't also software engineers

Fair enough. I think it is the responsibility of the recruiter or the company to clarify which they expect for a particular position, though.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by dbancajas »

marcinzm wrote: post #16
xfitm3 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being able to read and debug code is a different skillset from first hand development.

If you're depending on open source software then you also need to be able to fix the code in question. And do so in a way which the project would accept. Otherwise, your bug report may linger until the end of time.

a lot of SW out there are just plumbing code. Rarely you see dynamic programming/recursion algo. Most use standard library as the implementation is solid and kinks have been ironed out.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by dbancajas »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #21
marcinzm wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're depending on open source software then you also need to be able to fix the code in question. And do so in a way which the project would accept. Otherwise, your bug report may linger until the end of time.

Then hire for software engineering. Don't lie to candidates that it's a systems admin or devops role. It's pathetic employers keep demanding more skill and free work for the same pay.

then they can't pay you little. LOL. I'd end the interview right there especially if the salary is low.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by 0xEFF »

I expect a person in a devops role to not just write code, but write code with unit tests, integration tests, documentation, deployment automation, to the style guide etc...

I also expect them to work well on a team, especially in design reviews and code reviews.

The main difference between a software engineer and a devops engineer isn’t writing code, it’s the kind of code they write.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by vonmoltke »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #15
vonmoltke wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I search for software engineering interviews if I'm applying to be an IT systems engineer?

Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding.

To me, there is a pretty large gap between "interview questions to test the basics of coding" and "software engineer interview questions". Searching for the latter to find the former is like search for copywriter interviews to study for questions on basic English proficiency.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by dbancajas »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #14

I find it much easier to just study those problems when I interview versus complaining on the internet. The bar is damn low for most leetcode problems and refreshing is not that hard.

not when the interviewer wants you to know every corner case of a string reversal problem.

Re: I got asked LeetCode questions for a dev-ops systems engineering job today

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Post by wolfgke »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #15
vonmoltke wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I search for software engineering interviews if I'm applying to be an IT systems engineer?

Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding.

> Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding.

LeetCode questions test for other things than "basics of coding".

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