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Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Well, I just use Overleaf to do my LaTeX work on my iPad.

The Overleaf website is a bit painful to use on an iPad. Hopefully, this will change with the "desktop-grade" Safari announced for iOS 13. Maybe someone already running the beta could test this?

I imagine it will be identical to Safari running on desktop. The Beta also gives you things like page scaling that you have on desktop so you can play with sizing if you like too.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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I was an early adopter, I got an iPad back in the summer of 2010 and have used various models ever since. I've read quite a few of these "replacing a laptop with an iPad" articles and pretty much all of them involve a lot of bending over backwards to make it all work. I've tried it a few times and it's not just worth it (to me). What I do instead is that I embrace the platform for what it is and don't do any of this…

Some years ago I read an article through HN by someone who did their programming on an ipad through SSH (and bluetooth mac keyboard) and ditched the laptop. Pictures of croissants in the sun outside in Munich. Got me very inspired. But in the end I decided on a stationary box at work/home, and a MB Air for when not at the desk (or on the sofa). Works great and doesn't weigh much anyway. The main problem with the tabl…

I read the same article and felt the same way. But, like you, I couldn't get past the "why should I bother doing this when what I do works pretty well and I can autobackup a paranoid extra backup to usb?

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Good write up, thanks. I wrote three books using LaTex, but I now use markdown with leanpub, otherwise I would immediately clone the author’s setup. I also find that an iPad Pro is great for writing wherever I happen to be. I recently gave my large iPad Pro to someone and bought the smaller one. My new iPad Pro is so small it is always ready at hand.

This is a tangent, but I just wanted to thank you for making that move away from LaTeX. As I explained elsewhere [1], PDF (the primary output format of LaTeX AFAIK) is not very accessible to blind people via screen readers. The structured formats that can be easily produced with full fidelity from Markdown (HTML, EPUB) are much better. I'm sure this isn't the reason why you made the switch, but it's a nice side benefit.

[1]: https://lobste.rs/s/dhjp6r/what_are_you_doing_this_weekend#c...

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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I was an early adopter, I got an iPad back in the summer of 2010 and have used various models ever since. I've read quite a few of these "replacing a laptop with an iPad" articles and pretty much all of them involve a lot of bending over backwards to make it all work. I've tried it a few times and it's not just worth it (to me). What I do instead is that I embrace the platform for what it is and don't do any of this…

Some years ago I read an article through HN by someone who did their programming on an ipad through SSH (and bluetooth mac keyboard) and ditched the laptop. Pictures of croissants in the sun outside in Munich. Got me very inspired. But in the end I decided on a stationary box at work/home, and a MB Air for when not at the desk (or on the sofa). Works great and doesn't weigh much anyway. The main problem with the tabl…

Is this the article?

https://yieldthought.com/post/12239282034/swapped-my-macbook...

I remember when it came out and a few coworkers at the time had seriously considered swapping to an iPad because of it, but ended up getting MacBook Airs instead.

It’s surprising how 7 years has gone by and using an iPad for development is still facing the same problems.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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I was an early adopter, I got an iPad back in the summer of 2010 and have used various models ever since. I've read quite a few of these "replacing a laptop with an iPad" articles and pretty much all of them involve a lot of bending over backwards to make it all work. I've tried it a few times and it's not just worth it (to me). What I do instead is that I embrace the platform for what it is and don't do any of this…

Some years ago I read an article through HN by someone who did their programming on an ipad through SSH (and bluetooth mac keyboard) and ditched the laptop. Pictures of croissants in the sun outside in Munich. Got me very inspired. But in the end I decided on a stationary box at work/home, and a MB Air for when not at the desk (or on the sofa). Works great and doesn't weigh much anyway. The main problem with the tabl…

I read that series of articles every now and again because it sells a wonderful dream. The idea of being a highly mobile outdoorsman hacking code across the city is appealing. I also love the single-minded workflow of iOS, only one application is vying for your attention at a single moment. Anything else just pops in to let you know and then pops out. And working on a remote server is awesome, since the hardware doesn't matter anymore. I can bring whatever terminal I need, so I'm not tethered to my desk anymore.

Unfortunately most of my programming is web apps, so while it works for his C++ with long compile times, it doesn't work the same for me.

The one thing I did take from it long term is moving my dev server to the cloud, AWS Cloud9 specifically. I often find myself working on two or three website codebases plus two phone apps, and my personal laptop just doesn't have the RAM or disk space to hold all of that. So I use Cloud9 for the web apps and keep the phone apps on my local machine and it works out pretty well.

To be honest if Cloud9 worked on an iPad I'd probably leave my laptop closed more often.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Some years ago I read an article through HN by someone who did their programming on an ipad through SSH (and bluetooth mac keyboard) and ditched the laptop. Pictures of croissants in the sun outside in Munich. Got me very inspired. But in the end I decided on a stationary box at work/home, and a MB Air for when not at the desk (or on the sofa). Works great and doesn't weigh much anyway. The main problem with the tabl…

Is this the article? https://yieldthought.com/post/12239282034/swapped-my-macbook... I remember when it came out and a few coworkers at the time had seriously considered swapping to an iPad because of it, but ended up getting MacBook Airs instead. It’s surprising how 7 years has gone by and using an iPad for development is still facing the same problems.

>using an iPad for development is still facing the same problems.

I don't know if the App Store customizes what it shows people based on the apps they have installed, but for the past few weeks they've been showing me "Get starting with programming" apps and stories on the App Store and it's always the same "Scratch for kids" or "Swift playgrounds" or Udemy videos or something. Apple seems to be pushing programming on an iPad quite hard, but they're not doing anything to make it any easier or more productive. It's weird.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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I love my iPad. Compared to windows at work it's way more reliable and polished. I've been shifting over my computer interaction to the iPad with good results and improvements in convenience, independence and efficiency. Migrating rss, mail, web browsing and content consummation has been successful. I too started using the calendar, to do list and notes app to great effect. Only programming I wasn't able to change ye…

> The best thing about iPadOS is control. It feels so relaxing not having to worry about discord scanning all your processes and files just because you want to chat with your friends. I hope they'll never go back to allowing unsigned code.

I very much like the sandboxing of apps and the control I have over what they can access (e.g. location, contacts, photos). It also helps contain any security bugs in apps. But this seems orthogonal to allowing unsigned code. You could just as easily run an unsigned app in the same sandbox.

So personally, I'd like to keep that model - but I'd like to be able to load my own apps (within appropriate sandboxes).

To address some of the issues I've seen discussed here, I'd also like to see the ability to create a "volume" (a shared directory tree) and explicitly grant access to a volume to a subset of apps. (E.g. keep all of you document workflow in a volume and expose it to your TeX tools and git tools, but Uber/Facebook doesn't get to touch it.) I this is already addressed in OSX sandboxing - I believe you can grant access to a directory tree to a sandbox app via the open file dialog.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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What defined a usable computer in 1999 is very different to what defines a usable computer in 2019.

Having a CLI isn't surely part of it for 99% of the consumers, neither in 1999 nor in 2019.

I always think this is such an odd sentiment. That 1% builds 100% of the software for the other 99%. Doesn't that make them disproportionately more important?

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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The file manager improves but not by a lot. I think iPadOS is only usable as an actual computer when they finally make the Terminal app on iPad and a much better File app

So all Macs up to OS X weren't usable it seems.

This comment is hilarious. Apple switches from Classic Mac OS to OS X, the defining difference being that OS X has Unix underpinnings.

Apple then goes from almost going out of business to being one of richest companies in the world (sometimes the richest).

And this is supposed to be evidence that the command line isn't important?

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