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Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by SuperTachyon »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #10

I don't see TeXPad mentioned anywhere. An iOS LaTeX environment, featured here a few years ago: https://www.texpad.com/blog/latex-ported-to-ipad https://www.texpad.com/ios

Actually Texpad is mentioned in the article briefly.

But, unlike its MacOS version, on iOS it’s not as very good. For example, there is no multitasking support on iPad. The package managing relies on installing pre-defined “bundles”, which don’t tell what packages are included. On the Mac version of Texpad, we can choose between its own compiler or an external one like tex live. But on iOS, the former seems to be the only option.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by hoschicz »

chj wrote: post #29

TeX Writer developer here. Very flattered to be included in the author's workflow. Sitting at the core of this process is WorkingCopy, which has the most sensible integration with Files app that it simply keeps all files local. After one or two emails with its developer, we managed to get the coordination working rather quickly. The intersection of LaTeX & git & ipad users are very small, but it is a joy to see that…

Since iOS 13 ships with "full" Safari, how realistic is it to just use Overleaf / ShareLaTeX for typesetting on the iPad?

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by pletnes »

gdsimoes wrote: post #11
wanderfowl wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overleaf's fine, but lack of offline editing, and more crucially, trusting my main working copy to live only on somebody else's computer, is a bit of a non-starter for me. Plus, call me an idealist, but it feels like a huge step back when a device requires a paid web service to do something that's completely free on a real computer. I don't know that "pay somebody else" should be hailed as the solution to "good softw…

You made a good point about offline editing but Overleaf's main reason for existing is precisely TeX software not being so good.

The collaboration and sync tools are very useful, including performant editing by multiple authors at once.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by SuperTachyon »

occamschainsaw wrote: post #13

I have another (albeit more expensive) workflow. I use texpad[0] on my Mac and iPad, with the files stored in Dropbox and iCloud. Works like a charm and almost no overhead setting up. [0] https://www.texpad.com

This actually used to be my setup too. But Texpad on iOS is not very good (e.g. no multitasking support). Its Dropbox sync is not very reliable in my experience.

Then I moved to TeX Writer and Dropbox, which worked better. Then I wanted more (code completion, version control). So I ended up with the workflow mentioned in the article.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by chj »

hoschicz wrote: post #32
chj wrote: post #29

TeX Writer developer here. Very flattered to be included in the author's workflow. Sitting at the core of this process is WorkingCopy, which has the most sensible integration with Files app that it simply keeps all files local. After one or two emails with its developer, we managed to get the coordination working rather quickly. The intersection of LaTeX & git & ipad users are very small, but it is a joy to see that…

Since iOS 13 ships with "full" Safari, how realistic is it to just use Overleaf / ShareLaTeX for typesetting on the iPad?

If you don't need offline solution, I think you can use them even without iOS13.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by raxxorrax »

pvmcos wrote: post #28

I love my iPad. Compared to windows at work it's way more reliable and polished. I've been shifting over my computer interaction to the iPad with good results and improvements in convenience, independence and efficiency. Migrating rss, mail, web browsing and content consummation has been successful. I too started using the calendar, to do list and notes app to great effect. Only programming I wasn't able to change ye…

We are obligated to use iPads for external colleagues and it is a catastrophe for productivity. There are some nice apps but everything is restricted. Well, our CRM and ERP system use Windows, but even without that the iPads remain a toy for meetings.

Chatting with friends is ok though. But the ergonomy is still crap.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by saagarjha »

jakobegger wrote: post #24
macintux wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn’t care about minuscule lost revenue because some people would want to run containers of free software. Drop in the bucket.

If those users are so unimportant, why did Apple bother to introduce the Hypervisor framework on macOS? If there's a big, important market for virtualisation on macOS, surely it would be worthwhile to also address that market on iPadOS? Especially since Apple is trying hard to convince all kinds of professional users to adopt the iPad.

Apple has been trying to pull people away from writing kernel extensions for a while, so I don't see why the introduction of Hypervisor.framework (and with it, another user-space way to do something which previously required working in the kernel) is noteworthy as anything other than this.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by n1000 »

pvmcos wrote: post #28

I love my iPad. Compared to windows at work it's way more reliable and polished. I've been shifting over my computer interaction to the iPad with good results and improvements in convenience, independence and efficiency. Migrating rss, mail, web browsing and content consummation has been successful. I too started using the calendar, to do list and notes app to great effect. Only programming I wasn't able to change ye…

> The best thing about iPadOS is control. It feels so relaxing not having to worry about discord scanning all your processes and files just because you want to chat with your friends. I hope they'll never go back to allowing unsigned code.

It felt like a loss of control when I learned recently that facebook uses a loophole to exchange data with Whatsapp... https://medium.com/@gzanon/no-end-to-end-encryption-does-not...

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by Angostura »

wanderfowl wrote: post #4

This is great to see, but also really frustrating. I see Apple pushing to make iPadOS feel more 'real computer', but these sorts of basic Unixy workflows still feel very hacky, particularly when it comes time to save things to the 'File system', as it were. I look forward to a day when I can someday actually use things like XeLaTeX and Pandoc on an iPad to accomplish my actual work, but for now, I'm finding myself ed…

It may be worth noting here that iOS 13 adds support for external USB sticks and network Samba shares to the Files app.

Re: LaTeX Workflow on iPad

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Post by macintux »

_ph_ wrote: post #23
macintux wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn’t care about minuscule lost revenue because some people would want to run containers of free software. Drop in the bucket.

The number of iPads bought by those users might be just a drop in the bucket, but that is too shortsighted to look at those users. Those users are the ones who might push development of more advanced apps on the iPad, be it as developers themselves or because they would attract new app development to the iPad. Engineers and scientists might be a small market, but I think it was vital for OS X, that early on Apple lap…

I said the lost revenue if the feature were offered wasn’t important. I didn’t say anything about the value of the users.
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