Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request

Post by jacquesm » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 6:41 PM UTC

amyjess wrote: post #33

nimbius wrote: post #6

As far as I can tell, the case for this basically hinges on the United States ability to prove Julian Assange is some sort of hacker, not a journalist. Assange hasnt written any code, or published/executed any exploits, so this seems like a pretty tenuous charge. You'd have better luck prosecuting someone like Moxie Marlinspike for hacking. Then again the US has a rather schizophrenic approach to prosecuting 'hackers…

> Aaron Schwartz was looking at 35 years prison time for what basically amounted to a wget loop, or he could give the state its prosecutorial pound of flesh and plead guilty for six months house arrest. Faced with this he took his own life in 2013. Aaron Swartz was charged for his disrespect for other people's private property. He was banned from their network for violating TOS, and he immediately turned right around…

Post by astine » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 6:44 PM UTC

Mugwort wrote: post #45

It's worth keeping in mind that when they say Assange is guilty of violating the espionage act, did illegal hacking etc. what they really means is that he's guilt of publishing video showing US armed forces murdering unarmed journalists and civilians. If people are going to place emphasis on Assange's crimes and make them a high priority then it's hypocrisy of the worst possible kind to ignore the serious war crimes…

Post by passwordreset » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 6:49 PM UTC

micmil wrote: post #48

nimbius wrote: post #6

As far as I can tell, the case for this basically hinges on the United States ability to prove Julian Assange is some sort of hacker, not a journalist. Assange hasnt written any code, or published/executed any exploits, so this seems like a pretty tenuous charge. You'd have better luck prosecuting someone like Moxie Marlinspike for hacking. Then again the US has a rather schizophrenic approach to prosecuting 'hackers…

Swartz was never going to get anywhere remotely near 35 years and people need to stop spouting this nonsense as it makes them look completely ignorant of every single fact in the case. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is designed to prosecute all computer crime from minor mischief to advanced terrorism. As such its maximum sentences are extremely high and the press just loves to throw around maximum sentences with no…

Post by buboard » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 6:58 PM UTC

moneybadger wrote: post #104

buboard wrote: post #90

Where is the australian government in all this? Don't they have anything to say about their citizen being possibly unlawfully extradited? > Many jurisdictions, such as Australia, Canada, Macao, New Zealand, South Africa, and most European nations except Belarus, will not allow extradition if the death penalty may be imposed on the suspect Hellooo! Oh those pesky americans

The death penalty cannot be imposed on a subject if they are tried in a state that has outlawed the death penalty.

Post by epicureanideal » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 7:08 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #66

resters wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also worth remembering that he disseminated information on the behalf of the Russian state in an effort to get Trump elected. Not sure why you believe that any more than you would believe the claims that Saddam had WMDs.

Guccifer 2.0 was a Russian intelligence hacker group that hacked the Democratic National Committee emails and delivered to Assange and Wikileaks to publicly release. [1] Wikileaks then dropped the emails in parcels - behavior they had never done before - in order to manipulate news headlines leading up to the 2016 federal elections. [2] This is confirmed by numerous, independent security firms, such as CrowdStrike, F…