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Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Honestly the best way to watch baseball at least is to mute the TV and turn on the radio—vastly higher quality commentary, and you can look up in time to see the play you just heard. The ads also tend to be more local and less obnoxious.

If you like your commentary to be totally out of sync with the picture, yes.

I wonder if you could steam an sports FM service through an app and add a delay equivalent to the feed you are watching?

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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As a 40 year old Spaniard, I have never heard of this 4 PM siesta time.

32 yo here. People think, wrongly, all of Spain is like Andalucia with Flamenco and Sun everywhere. Head to the North in the Atlantic, or better, I dare all of HN to head Burgos in Winter, you'll see how "sunny" will you feel. Hint: it will chill-screw you all below 0 ºC.

It's funny how these thinking patterns repeat at all levels. I am from sunny Andalucia, and this flamenco and siesta stereotypes still sound like total rubbish.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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I thought a better deal for customers might happen in the UK when BT competed against Sky for Premier League football rights.

What actually happened was a bidding war that drove up the cost of the rights which was then passed down to legitimate subscribers.

Or forced them into less legitimate ways of viewing the content

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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post #266

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32 yo here. People think, wrongly, all of Spain is like Andalucia with Flamenco and Sun everywhere. Head to the North in the Atlantic, or better, I dare all of HN to head Burgos in Winter, you'll see how "sunny" will you feel. Hint: it will chill-screw you all below 0 ºC.

It's funny how these thinking patterns repeat at all levels. I am from sunny Andalucia, and this flamenco and siesta stereotypes still sound like total rubbish.

They think Spain is under GMT, and not.

Dear Americans/Europeans: At 2PM we aren't under a siesta. We are just having lunch, that's why every shop is closed.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Someone I met tried to figure out how to actually legally stream the NBA playoffs recently - apparently there's basically no way to do so without an existing cable subscription or without paying for the entire season. I'm guessing the licensing structure around all of that would make the US tax code look readable, but the result is that it's effectively impossible to decide you want to watch a specific game on a comp…

You can use YouTube TV. It's $50 a month. https://tv.youtube.com

Fubo is $55 and Sling is $35-55. Disney+ will soon start charging...

And it starts to add up and we're back to where we started.

Also, I believe Disney+ will fail because there are not enough Disney diehards who want a subscription specifically for Disney shows. Disney shows get watched because "oh, cool, they have Disney."

Ergo, they don't go looking for it.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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With piracy, they don't have to pay for distribution, because the peer to peer networks take care of it. What's unjustifiable is overcharging for essential music, books, and video, some of which is old, because of the ridiculous extensions on the copyright terms. Sometimes the artists have said they understand why people who can't afford it download their stuff, and can't blame them. Also unjustifiable is how the med…

Mercedes doesn't bear any costs either when a car is stolen.

The car isnt stolen. The owner still has the original. The car was copied and now there are two.

That's why we use the term copyright infringement.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement. If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means. I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product…

I find it puzzling why there isn't a Netflix for sports that just shows sports channels. (Or is there?) Cable providers like to lure people in with sports channels and then force sports to only appear in the top payment tier.

In the US this is unlikely to happen because the big 4 sports all want to control their own distribution, TV rights, and streaming. I think they believe there's more money in that method.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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post #119

This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement. If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means. I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product…

> "It's such a sad waste that all this money has been spent to identify and track down illegal activity when it could have been spent making the overall legal experience good enough that most people wouldn't need to resort to illegality."

^ This. (Same principle applies to myriad other misguided efforts to exercise some form of control.)

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement. If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means. I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product…

> a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product offering doesn't actually match demand, and work to fill that demand This is not necessarily true. It depends entirely on the shape of demand. By way of simplified example, imagine that there are two types of consumers equally distributed: those willing to pay $1000 and those willing to pay $100. Unless you can distinguish at time of payment betwee…

Everyone would be willing to buy a Laptop for $5 but pricing one at $500 doesn’t mean demand isn’t matched or the business model is flawed. It costs more than $5 to make a laptop. This is an extreme case but often I see the argument that it’s ok to pirate because it’s too expensive is a flawed argument. Lots of people want things that are cheaper but it isn’t always possible. That being said some companies abuse this and over charge a lot, but nonetheless the argument that free is because it’s too over priced is a flawed argument. Otherwise I could use the same logic and steal a laptop and say it’s he business fault for selling it at $500 instead of $55

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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post #119

This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement. If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means. I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product…

> the overall legal experience good enough that most people wouldn't need to resort to illegality

This fail when the content is the product. Sure you can improve the delivery method, but at the end of the day, you got to pay for both content and the delivery method, while the illegal market only has to pay for the delivery method.

The VPN market is flourishing, many people pay to get into private torrent trackers and rent seedbox to makes sure they can seed as much as they need to stay there.

Sure pay to get your experience better, but sadly they still need to pay to keep the content as good.

I believed that argument for far too long, that illegal content would happen less if a good enough service would exist. Netflix happened, it did happen, but then they increased the price just a tiny bit, others subscriptions based content appeared, still freakinly cheap, and more and more people got back to illegal content. Their thresold are way too low (and that make sense, the illegal market can deliver a good enough experience for cheaper because they only have to pay for that part of that experience, which is minimal in the actual entertainment).

I'm pretty sure most people pay more in fast food than in entertainment content each month.

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