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Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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post #38

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Oh, this is JavaScript. I was curious to see how ken was doing it with CSS. Thanks though. Your userscript does indeed still work.

Is this LightTable Chris Granger?

Afraid not. I'm pretty sure he has an account here though.

Edit: his username is ibdknox.

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

#43
post #42

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Afraid not. I'm pretty sure he has an account here though. Edit: his username is ibdknox.

Oh okay, thanks for the response anyways!

Not sure if you caught my edit. Just making sure. His username is ibdknox.

Cheers!

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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post #8

Do we really want people chasing karma on here? I'd be tempted to go the other way, and limit the visibility and usefulness of it. I.e., on user profiles just show "between 1-50 karma", "500+ karma".

Given that the content quality here is high, chasing karma could be a good thing, if it encourages additional high-quality, thought-provoking discussion. People should be rewarded for sharing content like that.

I'm skeptical of the notion that karma is gained through high-quality and thought-provoking discussion; in fact, in my experience (with previous accounts on this site and other sites with point/karma systems) is that thoughts which conform to pre-conceived notions, thoughts which sound clever (but may not be) and re-framing of old rigorous concepts in new sheen with new words gain the most karma. The illusion that good discussion is rewarded ignores the fact that despite thinking we are (and some even striving to be) we don't optimize our reward system for good discussion, we optimize it for things we like - which even for the readers of Hacker News(!) turns out to be not far off modern status-quo pleasing.

As a corollary to my point, we'd also like thought-provoking material rather than pure provocateurs. But I'd take an intelligent provocateur over a philosophically/historically uninformed HN comment any day of the week.

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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Given that the content quality here is high, chasing karma could be a good thing, if it encourages additional high-quality, thought-provoking discussion. People should be rewarded for sharing content like that.

I'm skeptical of the notion that karma is gained through high-quality and thought-provoking discussion; in fact, in my experience (with previous accounts on this site and other sites with point/karma systems) is that thoughts which conform to pre-conceived notions, thoughts which sound clever (but may not be) and re-framing of old rigorous concepts in new sheen with new words gain the most karma. The illusion that go…

Submitting links also deeply skews the karma curve compared to regular commenting. A good submission that hits and gets to the top of the front page and stays there for a while can easily garner a few hundred internet points, and there is no risk of getting brigaded for an unpopular opinion. Even with points on submissions getting debuffed what seems like n/2 or something close to that (in any case it does not seem to be a one-to-one correspondence between the submission's point total and the increase to the submitter's score), submitting stories raises far more points than grinding in the comments.

As this brief discussion of the HN metagame shows, anything that gets a number stuck next to it will attract people to optimizing it like flies to a manure pile...

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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post #46

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If I recall correctly, the ability to flag, and the ability to downvote.

Flagging kicks in above 30. After 250 you can change your top bar color. After 500 you can downvote.

Oh, thanks for the correction. I'm using a custom stylesheet, so I've "always" been able to change my top bar color and didn't notice that that required a certain level of karma.

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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post #29

I don't want people chasing karma here. I especially don't want to encourage it for something they can solve with one line in their user stylesheet. "Hackers", indeed. I became so troubled by my own reaction that I added a couple lines of CSS to disable the absolute counter in the corner of every page. That number is toxic. https://imgur.com/a/uPnW7bT

I use it as someone-might-have-replied-to-your-comment indicator, if I see it change there's a high chance someone interacted with me and I wouldn't notice it otherwise.

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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post #29

I don't want people chasing karma here. I especially don't want to encourage it for something they can solve with one line in their user stylesheet. "Hackers", indeed. I became so troubled by my own reaction that I added a couple lines of CSS to disable the absolute counter in the corner of every page. That number is toxic. https://imgur.com/a/uPnW7bT

Why not share your CSS?

https://github.com/kengruven/config/commit/6ccbb5b9f445c96ca...

Re: Request HN: Something nice for reaching 1000 karma

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Given that the content quality here is high, chasing karma could be a good thing, if it encourages additional high-quality, thought-provoking discussion. People should be rewarded for sharing content like that.

I'm skeptical of the notion that karma is gained through high-quality and thought-provoking discussion; in fact, in my experience (with previous accounts on this site and other sites with point/karma systems) is that thoughts which conform to pre-conceived notions, thoughts which sound clever (but may not be) and re-framing of old rigorous concepts in new sheen with new words gain the most karma. The illusion that go…

Sometimes I upvote things I agree with.

Mostly I upvote if the user posted interesting/useful information.

Sometimes I upvote things I disagree with if I think it promotes a good discussion.

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