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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by m463 » Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:06 AM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #69

m463 wrote: post #41

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With trust, trade is unlimited. That said, we should be able to say NO - and this includes apple. For instance, why should we have to identify ourselves to apple?

AFAIK, you don't. An iPhone will work fine without signing in to any Apple service and you can opt out of all Apple data collection right in the device. I've set up several testing iDevices for work with no Apple accounts. The only thing you can't do without an Apple account is to use the Apple services like the App Store and iCloud and other paid services. I think even software updates can be done without an account…

I have not set up an iPhone from scratch in over a year (in particular I'm uncertain if I have set up a device from scratch with ios 12, I know I have upgraded one)

Does your comment apply to non-phone iOS devices, or does it include iPhones?

With the latest OS, do you have to identify yourself or create an apple id to start using an iPhone?

Also, is this in the US or outside of the US?

(thanks!)

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by dpkonofa » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 5:32 AM UTC

tty2300 wrote: post #170

dpkonofa wrote: post #165

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This is already the case. TouchID will disable on a device with a screen that is not re-keyed. Your solution isn't simple at all because it doesn't actually address the problem.

The device must continue working after being repaired though.

It does. Touch ID is just disabled and a message pops up saying that the display key doesn't match the Secure Enclave and that Touch ID has been disabled.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by kartickv » Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 6:15 AM UTC

tekknik wrote: post #169

kartickv wrote: post #141

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Good question, and we shouldn't need an account to download free apps, just as we don't on the desktop. Only when I download I paid app do I want to identify myself so that I can download it again.

You do need an app to install via the app store on a mac desktop. if you mean via external methods then jailbreak? if you’re asking for apple to allow anybody to release an ipa on a site and allow download and install then this horse is dead already

I'm suggesting that app stores (iOS, Mac, Google Play) shouldn't require users to create an account just to download free apps. Partly for privacy, and partly because it's an unnecessary hurdle for users to jump over, and partly because it causes other issues like my Purchased list being polluted with too many free apps, making it hard to find what I actually purchased.

It's my device, not Apple's or Google's, so I should be able to download a third-party app without identifying myself to the app store owner.

In my last comment, I did not ask for iDevices to be able to install apps from outside the iOS app store.