Beyond Rhino, Whale, and Mammoth would be nice. Beyond Human. Beyond Jeff Bezos. I mean, while we’re doing simple nutritional approximations with plant matter, I don’t see why we wouldn’t get more ambitious.
The copy writes itself: eat the rich.
The Race to Become the Beyond Meat of Fish
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#112Tangential question for HN vegetarians: Would you eat lab-grown meat if it was affordable?
No, never. I have veggie friends who would.
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#113Here are the ingredients of a Beyond Burger from their website: > Water, Pea Protein Isolate*, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Natural Flavors, Cocoa Butter, Mung Bean Protein, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Apple Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vinegar, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Lecithin, Pomegranate Fruit Powder, Beet Juice Extract (for color) Here are ingredients of a r…
Have you ever made a burger? There's a lot more in your average beef patty than just beef, here are the ingredients for one of the local burger chains:
> Beef Mince, Relish (Diced Tomato (50%), Sugar, Onions, Vinegar, Tomato Paste, Herbs And Spices, Salt, Thickener (1422), Food Acid (330), Firming Agent (509)), Salt, Parsley
And if you're avoiding starches why would you be getting a burger, the bun is a starch. And lets not even start on what's likely to be in the rest of the ingredients.
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#114To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…
Are you a vegetarian? I am! And as a vegetarian, I can tell you that I love it when restaurants sell Impossible Burgers. First, I don't cook (unless you count making a bowl of cereal cooking), so it's not like I'm going to make it for myself. Second, restaurant dining is about more than just calorie intake - sometimes I want to go to a restaurant, and as a vegetarian I appreciate when they have tasty things for me to eat. Third, if I'm going to a restaurant as part of a larger social gathering, or as a company outing or whatever - in other words, if I'm at a restaurant when I would not have otherwise chosen to (which I'm sure doesn't happen to just me!), then I appreciate it when there are options for me.
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#115Not mentioned in this article, but the Gardein brand vegan fish fillets and crab cakes are excellent and already available at grocery stores.
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#116Beyond Rhino, Whale, and Mammoth would be nice. Beyond Human. Beyond Jeff Bezos. I mean, while we’re doing simple nutritional approximations with plant matter, I don’t see why we wouldn’t get more ambitious.
There was actually a group of biohackers working on producing lab cheese a while back ("Real Vegan Cheese" IIRC) that included producing narwhal cheese as a stretch goal in their crowdfunding campaign. Sadly I don't think they've gotten even as far as cow thus far.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any sources to back that up?
Start with unhealthy high-carb refined grains and add anti-nutrients like lectin and phytates, plus fiber that you would probably be better off getting from whole fruits and vegetables and you don't end up with something healthy. Pretty much any of the myriad resources on paleo / low-carb / grain-free diets will cover most of the reasons and point to research backing up why whole grains are not healthy. Nutrition sci…
“Lectins and phytates” are the black box doom and gloom ingredients of the paleo world. Let’s straighten up a couple misconceptions:
1. Lectins. Lectins are substances found in many raw foods, like tomatoes, lentils, beans, and whole grains. Some lectins are toxic (like those in kidney beans) and some are completely harmless (like those in tomatoes). Toxic lectins are completely destroyed by proper cooking. Some high lectin foods (like lentils and beans) are strongly correlated with longer lifespans, so diets suggesting they be avoided are probably worth scrutiny.
2. Phytates. Phytates can bind to vitamins and minerals and make them biologically unavailable in digestion. In practice, this is only problematic in already nutrient deficient diets. And like most dietary concerns, the picture is more complex. Phytates also have remarkable positive effects, such as decreased rates of cancer, kidney stones, diabetes, and heart disease.
The paleo diet (basically rebranded Atkins) runs contrary to every developed nation’s dietary guides. To believe it’s healthy is to believe in conspiratorial thinking as silly as flat earth or faked moon landings.
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#118To me, seeing YuppieVCFoodStartup brand names in a restaurant is akin to the restaurant advertising they’re selling me Lays(tm) chips as the side to my burger. While I have no urge to eat food for its ability to imitate meat (so I’m not the target audience anyway), I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment. It feels to me like paying a premium to eat frozen store-boug…
> I think these products belong in a grocery or convenience store, not a dining establishment
I heard somewhere that the fake burger companies sold to restaurants first because the parameters for cooking it well are much narrower than a regular burger (for now). They didn't want to ruin their products' reputation because of mistakes people made cooking the burgers at home, whereas restaurants will probably do a better job.
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#119Ew
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Animals also.
Not profitably. Cows can't be kept recently-pregnant without way too many calves; half of chicks are useless males.
> half of chicks are useless males.
That may soon be a thing of the past.[1][2]
1. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/30/chick-culling-germany-makes-...
2. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/22/worlds-f...