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Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Post by gvggf »

egd wrote: post #130

Someone I met tried to figure out how to actually legally stream the NBA playoffs recently - apparently there's basically no way to do so without an existing cable subscription or without paying for the entire season. I'm guessing the licensing structure around all of that would make the US tax code look readable, but the result is that it's effectively impossible to decide you want to watch a specific game on a comp…

I pay for an F1TV subscription. The service and app (tata communications) are so bad, I use a pirate stream to actually watch the races :S

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Post by askafriend »

egd wrote: post #130

Someone I met tried to figure out how to actually legally stream the NBA playoffs recently - apparently there's basically no way to do so without an existing cable subscription or without paying for the entire season. I'm guessing the licensing structure around all of that would make the US tax code look readable, but the result is that it's effectively impossible to decide you want to watch a specific game on a comp…

You can use YouTube TV. It's $50 a month.

https://tv.youtube.com

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Post by csixty4 »

vageli wrote: post #157
brewdad wrote: post #156

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Streaming "cable" providers (Sling, Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, etc.)can get you up and running in minutes and usually come with a 7 day free trial. It doesn't solve every issue with trying to get legal, but it at least solves the "sit around all day for the installer to show up" problem.

> Streaming "cable" providers (Sling, Youtube TV, Playstation Vue, etc.)can get you up and running in minutes and usually come with a 7 day free trial. It doesn't solve every issue with trying to get legal, but it at least solves the "sit around all day for the installer to show up" problem. Doesn't sling require a cable subscription?

Their product used to be a box that encoded video off cable and sent it to your devices over the network. But now they have their own streaming service that carries cable TV content.

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Post by danem »

sjwright wrote: post #147
danem wrote: post #141

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> a signal that their product offering doesn't actually match demand Is it? Why would a smart businessman (the bar owner) pay more for a product when a cheaper alternative (pirating) exists?

For the same reason they don’t stock their bar with beer stolen from the brewery?

Exactly my point. I don't get the whole "if the service isn't cheap or convenient enough, piracy is fair game" argument that gets thrown around on HN all the time.

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Post by julianz »

guiomie wrote: post #46
ankit219 wrote: post #28

One of those cases where both sides are in the mud. La Liga is struggling with piracy of games for long. They have been trying to make money of their product (football essentially features two of the greatest players to play the game in last 10 years, only one now) but struggle due to their whacky ideas and no care about fans. Sample this: The timings of games are as early as 12PM (spanish siesta is at 4PM) and as la…

My key take away from your comment is F1 has non geo-fenced service. I just went on their website, and I'm blown away. You can select a cockpit to stream, you have a bunch of geeky data, all while you can watch the GP in it's traditional way. I might get back into F1 just for this.

It is geofenced in countries where someone holds the rights to broadcast F1 (like New Zealand). No F1TV for us.

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Post by notyourwork »

egd wrote: post #130

Someone I met tried to figure out how to actually legally stream the NBA playoffs recently - apparently there's basically no way to do so without an existing cable subscription or without paying for the entire season. I'm guessing the licensing structure around all of that would make the US tax code look readable, but the result is that it's effectively impossible to decide you want to watch a specific game on a comp…

Similar problem exists with MLB.

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Post by notyourwork »

wjossey wrote: post #146
fourmii wrote: post #135

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Really, how about just signing up to the NBA League Pass? Sure it's expensive, but it doesn't need cable installation, just watch it from basically any internet accessible device.

League pass does not apply to nationally broadcast games or games in your local market. I live in LA and root for the Celtics, and watch all the home broadcasts with their arena feed. If I lived in Boston it’s not an option and I have to have a cable subscription. If the team is on a national broadcast, it is also blacked out. That being said, I listen to the finals on the local radio broadcasts via the NBA app becau…

MLB has same problem with blackouts. Irks me beyond belief.

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Post by giobox »

thatoneuser wrote: post #97
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #74

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The Wikipedia page states that they can monitor brightness changes through a window and correlate that to a broadcast programme. How they deal with network delays and time shifting is another matter.

That sounds like something that works in theory but not at all in the real world.

The full description sounds like a normal digital camera to be honest, almost as if someone has gone to great verbal lengths to disguise the fact it is simply a camera:

"The optical detector in the detector van uses a large lens to collect that light and focus it on to an especially sensitive device, which converts fluctuating light signals into electrical signals, which can be electronically analysed."

For many years I had heard that the real enforcement tool was the fact that anyone selling a TV in the UK, like an electrical retailer such as Comet or Currys, had to submit the name and address of the purchaser to the TV Licensing authority. I just did a quick google, and it turns out this really was the case for a really long time!

> https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/business...

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Post by pdimitar »

danem wrote: post #174
sjwright wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the same reason they don’t stock their bar with beer stolen from the brewery?

Exactly my point. I don't get the whole "if the service isn't cheap or convenient enough, piracy is fair game" argument that gets thrown around on HN all the time.

What is so hard to get about it?

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Post by deelowe »

Nextgrid wrote: post #120
bhelkey wrote: post #87

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Should it be legal to create a drive-in that plays movies off of Netflix?

Unpopular opinion, but I would say yes. It doesn’t cost Netflix any more money whether one person or 10 people are watching a particular subscription. I’d say the major appeal of the drive-in is the venue and all the accessories (big screen, sound, etc) - otherwise you’d just pay for Netflix yourself and watch it at home.

Opportunity cost is real...
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