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Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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One of those cases where both sides are in the mud. La Liga is struggling with piracy of games for long. They have been trying to make money of their product (football essentially features two of the greatest players to play the game in last 10 years, only one now) but struggle due to their whacky ideas and no care about fans. Sample this: The timings of games are as early as 12PM (spanish siesta is at 4PM) and as la…

I don't follow the Formula1 but my father does, I would like to get him a subscription but all I can find on their website is a subscription for replays 7 days after a Grand Prix and nothing live besides stats.

This is the service:

https://f1tv.formula1.com/en/

It's not available in every country and it's been comically bad so far. Most races the streaming just fails and when it's not failing it routinely drops down to an incredibly low resolution for a few seconds. The replays usually work once the race is over though.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Sports in bars is a very different experience with sound on vs. off. Without sound, it's a background distraction that a few folks may be interested in. With sound on (even if the commentary is indecipherable), it's a collective experience that holds everyone's attention. Usually the bar will mute or put on music during commercial breaks. I do wonder if alternative commentary would ever catch on. Imagine if instead o…

Personally, I feel a slapstick comedy track would work best. /joke What could work really well is some live radio, podcast, twitch of commentary to supplement the detectable pirated audio. The biggest issue would be syncing the video and audio.

That could be solved with a camera pointed at the pirated video feed and then... oh wait...

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This really doesn't sit well with me. Yes, the bars in question were breaking the law. However, keep in mind that one business was using private citizens to essentially spy on other businesses without the citizens' knowledge or consent.

I'm sure the users of the app technically gave legal consent via the app's terms of service. But I doubt even 1% of the app's users were actually aware of this aspect of the app.

Also, this is why the permissions an app requires to operate matter. I roll my eyes just as hard as the next person when I see comments in the Google's Play store about the absurd level of permissions required by some apps. But I also think twice when I install apps requiring ridiculous permissions compared with what they're supposed to do.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Could be a good business opportunity.

Make a "compliance device" for shops/hotels/supermarkets that want to comply with their licensing obligations.

All the store owner does is place a listening device in their shop and it listens to what licensed content is used and automatically invoices and ensures compliance.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Could be a good business opportunity. Make a "compliance device" for shops/hotels/supermarkets that want to comply with their licensing obligations. All the store owner does is place a listening device in their shop and it listens to what licensed content is used and automatically invoices and ensures compliance.

/s? Please?

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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My key take away from your comment is F1 has non geo-fenced service. I just went on their website, and I'm blown away. You can select a cockpit to stream, you have a bunch of geeky data, all while you can watch the GP in it's traditional way. I might get back into F1 just for this.

I recently got back into F1. The viewing experience is amazing, so much better than what I remember from youth. Even if I do miss my favorite commentator. And I love that I can watch the replay at my leisure on any device. That is amazing. However ... would it kill them to remember where I stopped watching and continue the replay from there? I don’t always (ie never) have the patience to sit through a 2 hour race

Is the commentator Murray Walker by any chance :-)

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Ok - so in your ideally free society, pedophiles should be able to share child pornography freely, assuming they didn't create it?

As a matter of maintaining mental health, I stop responding when threads devolve into "think of the children!" I hope you can understand.

I'm not saying think of the children. I'm not even making an arugment with that previous post - I'm probing your viewpoints to see if your worldview truly allows free sharing of information from one party to another as it appears you claimed.

I could have just as easily said terrorist propaganda, beheading videos, revenge porn, bomb making manuals, or a lot of other things. My point is to find out if you really believe in unrestrained speech, or if you yourself have limits to what is allowable free speech vs unallowable.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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This has the same solution as any other story around copyright infringement.

If you provide people with easy, convenient, legal methods to consume the content in a way that works for them, for a price they find reasonable, then they overwhelmingly won't resort to illegal means.

I'm not saying these bars are correct to resort to illegal streaming, but a wise businessperson would see this as a signal that their product offering doesn't actually match demand, and work to fill that demand. You're not going to make 100% of people happy in 100% of cases, but you can get to a point where the level of illegal streaming just isn't worth cracking down on.

It's such a sad waste that all this money has been spent to identify and track down illegal activity when it could have been spent making the overall legal experience good enough that most people wouldn't need to resort to illegality. It adds insult to injury to note that companies like La Liga are already making money hand-over-fist; it's not like they have some sort of crisis where the lost revenue due to illegal streaming is posing an existential threat to their business. Instead of cracking down and making enemies, they could instead work to make the experience better and turn potential enemies into satisfied customers.

Re: Shazam-like technology used to identify bars illegally streaming soccer games

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Why is it illegal to amplify music in your store if you paid for the music?

Should it be legal to create a drive-in that plays movies off of Netflix?

Unpopular opinion, but I would say yes.

It doesn’t cost Netflix any more money whether one person or 10 people are watching a particular subscription.

I’d say the major appeal of the drive-in is the venue and all the accessories (big screen, sound, etc) - otherwise you’d just pay for Netflix yourself and watch it at home.

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