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Chinese Cash Is Suddenly Toxic in Silicon Valley, Following U.S. Pressure

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That has no bearing on if the claim is falsifiable or not.

> falsified by a full investigation Unless it's a term I'm not aware of, a full investigation is still limited to human actors and limits.

The result of the investigation isn't a factor in determining if a claim is falsifiable or not, only the question if the investigation is possible. This is confusing falsifiable with falsified.

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Not the person you replied to be wow, you have no idea how little China cares.

When you say "China" do you mean the average person on the street there or the CPC leadership? Given the number of fuerdai in elite US schools, you really don't think that the CPC leadership would care about a public spat with YC? I'm not trying to be right here, I'm honestly curious and would be honored to be disabused of my ignorance by a more informed perspective.

Both. China is a country of 1.4 billion people, they're detaining hundreds of thousands of people for no good reason in Xinjiang, they execute or imprison political enemies and are building artificial islands in the South China Sea in order to turn international waters into Chinese sovereign waters. The scale of that place will blow your mind. A single city like Guangzhou has 50% more people than the entire Bay Area.

You really think a single VC company that plays no critical role in national security is even on their radar?

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> Nah, nobody is complaining about Taiwanese or Japanese investment, so that is moot point... FYI: xenophobia =\= racism

I don't understand the point of this FYI. GP's logic applies to both and answers both.

One can be xenophobic against a nationality without being racist against a race that happens to be predominant in the said country. You don't have to be racist against asians (incl. Japanese and Taiwanese) to be xenophobic to the Chinese. Parent only provided for proof against racism - not xenophobia, which is why I noted the difference. I am not commenting on the absence or presence of either racism/xenophobia in this particular case: I'm only noting an important difference.

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Hey, Chinese money is bad. But Saudi money is more than welcome. 50% of Softbank's vision fund is from Middle East sovereign funds, who have even more brutal censorship laws and commits more brazen human rights policies. US policy is completely incoherent and probably explained by who pays the bribes to Whitehouse vs. any legitimate principles.

China is a threat to US economic supremacy. And now they want to become independent from US technology etc... the US doesn’t see it that way.

Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states are vassals of the US.

Not exactly the same level of threat if you ask me

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Chinese investment means increased pressure on tech oligopolies* to increase censorship of media critical of China. They've been branching out to increase soft influence, keep news sites and Olympic committee from recognizing Taiwan as a separate nation. Then there's what is currently going on in Hong Kong. Chinese investor cash is effectively Chinese government investment. It's not a good thing. *edit

Even Taiwan does not recognize Taiwan as a separate nation. Its position is that the Republic of China still exists, is the only legitimate state in all of China, and that its seat of government in Taiwan.

There is a growing movement in Taiwan to give up on this claim and instead pursue an existence as a de jure, rather than merely de facto independent nation.

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There's a fair dose of racism involved, just as there was with the very similar hysteria over Japanese investment in the 1980s.

The same attitude applies to Russians and I doubt you can call racism on that one. Seriously, Chinese call up the racism card far too often for unrelated things for me to take those statements seriously.

I'm not Chinese, but thanks for assuming (I'm from Sinope, but I consider myself a cosmopolitan and reside in a barrel in the Athenian market).

As you correctly point out, there is a hysteria about Russians at the moment, as well. I think the US is primed for this because of the long history of anti-Russian propaganda during the Cold War.

When it comes to China, I see all sorts of extra negative characterizations of Chinese people coming into play. I've seen threads here on HN which people go on about how Chinese students are cheaters, and how Chinese culture promotes cheating. That's just an outrageous and ignorant characterization of Chinese culture, and I do think it represents a type of widespread prejudice.

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A full investigation by whom? They've broken no laws. Voluntary? Ha. I realize what the parent was attempting to say, but internet rumormongering is poor form.

>A full investigation by whom? The scientist seeking to determine if it is falsifiable. That no scientist has the resources necessary to do so now does not have bearing on determining if some claim is falsifiable or not.

I consider claims in which there is no realistic path to falsifiability non-falsifiable.

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I'd be more concerned about Chinese financing of Hollywood. Nearly every big-budget production these days has Chinese co-producers. This leads to farcical episodes like the remake of Red Dawn featuring feeble North Korea as the villain rather than China as originally envisioned.

Russia was the villain in the original movie and China was on the US side (but were only briefly mentioned). Or do you mean "as originally envisioned for the remake"?

Yes, I meant the original plans for the remake.

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Chinese growth was slowing anyway. Now they have a convenient scapegoat for that, big bad America. The long-term consequences of deep hostility against America in the general Chinese population are hard to predict, but they are not going to be favorable to us.

The anti-American rhetoric has always been there, no matter what. The Communist party can even blame the tiananmen square massacre on the western world. This is called brainwash.

They couldn't claim Chinese growth slowdown was cause by America then. Now, they can, and it will even be the truth, if not the whole truth.
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