How can an article behind a paywall collect so many votes that quickly? Now I'm wondering if any of the upvoters have actually read the article.
Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
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Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#72Facebook is a one-man show. Zuckerberg owning 60% of the company and no one can say anything to him. Moreover, one man has the entire monopoly over our entire online social life. Other networks have come and failed. Anti Trust regulators should seriously open Facebook's file and break it.
Mark owns less than 30% of Facebook.
If you count by shares, yes. But his stock gets more votes, so he owns 60% of the votes.
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
you mean like.. email?
Email will notify you of events that are only publicized on Facebook? :thinking_face: I mean, to be fair, even Facebook won't necessarily tell you about an event unless the event creator pays them money to promote it. It's actually not a great platform for small-scale publicity, and _only_ publicizing an event on Facebook is clearly a mistake for a number of reasons. But despite its many virtues, email doesn't actual…
A contact list would, like what likely existed for every previous reunion in GPs high school since before 2010. My schools periodically reach out to update your contact info for their alumni roster. I bet GP never gave the school their contact info after graduation rather than this being a facebook only situation (unless it was just organized by a handful of alums and not tied with the school itself).
There isn't a passive tool that would solve this other than getting people's email or mailing address, and that's absolutely fine since if you wanted to go to these reunions and be invested in these events, you can send an email to the school and get yourself on this contact list.
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#74Honestly I don’t see the problem, Facebook’s privacy stance has been well known for years. I don’t use their product much because of this, but friends and family couldn’t care less. Their response is that they don’t care if someone reads their messages or tailors ads to them and no matter how hard I try it won’t change their minds. If you don’t like their privacy stance just don’t use the product, it’s not like there…
> I don’t see the problem
Facebook entered into a consent decree with the FTC [1]. (Facebook had to do this because it violated promises made to consumers.) Facebook then violated that consent decree. These e-mails may show Mark Zuckerberg--the Chairman, CEO and majority vote holder--complicit in those violations.
One can dig deeper into the privacy and antitrust issues [2], cultural issues and other matters. But at its core, this relates to their flagrantly violating a binding agreement with a federal regulator.
The individual criminal-law analogy would be violating one's parole agreement.
[1] https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2011/11/faceb...
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/opinion/privacy-antitrust...
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#75Honestly I don’t see the problem, Facebook’s privacy stance has been well known for years. I don’t use their product much because of this, but friends and family couldn’t care less. Their response is that they don’t care if someone reads their messages or tailors ads to them and no matter how hard I try it won’t change their minds. If you don’t like their privacy stance just don’t use the product, it’s not like there…
Facebook has 70% of the social media global market share.
Coca-Cola has just 40% of the non-alcoholic beverages global market share.
And as others have pointed out, "don't use Facebook" doesn't solve the problem of all the data they already have on you and will never destroy.
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#76Don't be fooled. Zuckerberg is the head of the organization and has both created and internalized the economic logic of his organization, but the problem is systemic. If you put in someone else, they'll have a different style and might do a few things slightly different, but the economic logic is the same. Spying on the population is profitable, so such operations must be expanded to the maximum possible extent. We c…
It seems rather hard to find a legal way to outlaw the business model.
I wonder whether there's a way to make spying so unprofitable that the business model simply isn't attractive anymore?
Legislation that would force businesses to pay for collecting user data (maybe a tax on user data) might be a start, but I don't see how something like that could be implemented successfully.
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I haven't used Facebook in nearly 8 years, however to say there are alternatives is specious. For example, I have recently learned I missed my first high school reunion because it was only posted on Facebook. Unfortunately, there isn't another service out there that I could subscribe to that would ensure I receive such communication.
you mean like.. email?
Email wouldn't allow you to effortlessly aggregate the email addresses of everyone, and then to communicate the message out. There's a really large overhead there that doesn't really exist with Facebook.
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#78Honestly I don’t see the problem, Facebook’s privacy stance has been well known for years. I don’t use their product much because of this, but friends and family couldn’t care less. Their response is that they don’t care if someone reads their messages or tailors ads to them and no matter how hard I try it won’t change their minds. If you don’t like their privacy stance just don’t use the product, it’s not like there…
Not all, but part of the outrage is political. A lot of (D) folks are looking for someone to blame for the current political climate. I'll stick my neck out a bit and wager that a lot of news outlets running privacy stories wouldn't think twice about selling their customers data for ad revenue.
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#79This seems to be the one guy on the planet who surpasses Trump in his ability to get into the news every 2 days. No tweeting required even. How are his staff not just jumping out of windows? I mean it's been one article after the other for 3 years now. Almost impressed by the endurance.
>How are his staff not just jumping out of windows?
Because everybody has a price, and Facebook knows how to find 'em cheap.
Re: Facebook Emails Could Show Zuckerberg Knew of Questionable Privacy Practices
#80Honestly I don’t see the problem, Facebook’s privacy stance has been well known for years. I don’t use their product much because of this, but friends and family couldn’t care less. Their response is that they don’t care if someone reads their messages or tailors ads to them and no matter how hard I try it won’t change their minds. If you don’t like their privacy stance just don’t use the product, it’s not like there…
There are lots of situations where you have no choice but use Facebook. Some schools, for example, communicate through Facebook groups. Your church might do the same thing. You may have relatives abroad you can only talk to through Facebook or WhatsApp, because that's all they know how to use. Your landlord or employer might demand to see your Facebook profile as a condition of getting a lease or a job. The stance of…
Landlord/employer thing you will have to pull an example as that seems unheard of and an invasion of privacy. Obviously don't have a beer bong in your profile picture, but they aren't going to grab your wrist and make you log in during the interview. Landlord has no business knowing anything about your life beyond whether or not you can pay rent.
All those other situations existed before facebook too, and people still got to reunions, went to church, and talked to their relatives living half a world away. Chances are, these people are signing into facebook with an email address or telephone number, so it's not like facebook is literally all they know unless grandson set up grandpas account (but I bet grandpa still has a landline, forwards nigerian prince emails, and writes letters just fine).