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Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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Re: Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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Before we get all up in arms about governments taking monopoly, we should remind ourselves that the "bottom up" approach being championed here gave us the Google-Verizon open internet proposal in August. As I understand it, the proposal have implied net neutrality for wireline services but has an opt-out for wireless internet. So the bottom up approach is not a guarantee that it will produce better policies.

But on balance, the bottom up approach has certainly been good for the internet. I just want to keep it in perspective.

References for the Google-Verizon deal:

http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/08/joint-policy-...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10920871

Re: Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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post #2

Already posted using a direct link to ISOC story http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2016379

To me, this story was interesting to HN not because Google was commenting, but because Vint Cerf was. When he writes about Internet governance, I listen. The UN forms committees and working groups all the time; I'm not going to sign a petition to one of them unless someone I trust on the matter feels so strongly about it.

Re: Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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The inter-networks are too important to be governed by anyone, be they governments or companies. Government implies coercion and regulations, regardless of where it comes from.

Not that the regulators won't try, they will be adamant about their "right" to "bring order" over apparent chaos.

Re: Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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Before we get all up in arms about governments taking monopoly, we should remind ourselves that the "bottom up" approach being championed here gave us the Google-Verizon open internet proposal in August. As I understand it, the proposal have implied net neutrality for wireline services but has an opt-out for wireless internet. So the bottom up approach is not a guarantee that it will produce better policies. But on b…

That's still top down, but with different people at the top.

The Google-Verizon deal involved common framework for government regulation of the internet. Calling it "open internet" was a deliberate misnomer.

Re: Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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The very premise of this article is totally ridiculous.

The beauty of the internet is that you can easily share vast amounts of digitized information with anyone without having to be in the same place.

Not that it's governed by X or Y. And the IGF doesn't govern it anyway.

In the end this forum is a total joke anyway, a pointless waste of money, much like many parts of the UN from which it stems. Any actual decisions are made elsewhere.

And even if it did matter why should we support a bunch of companies and academics taking part in this sort of thing? Who elected them? What if it were Zynga sitting on this committee instead of Google? Would anyone be outraged at their departure?

Re: Governments shouldn’t have a monopoly on Internet governance

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post #7

Before we get all up in arms about governments taking monopoly, we should remind ourselves that the "bottom up" approach being championed here gave us the Google-Verizon open internet proposal in August. As I understand it, the proposal have implied net neutrality for wireline services but has an opt-out for wireless internet. So the bottom up approach is not a guarantee that it will produce better policies. But on b…

That's still top down , but with different people at the top. The Google-Verizon deal involved common framework for government regulation of the internet. Calling it "open internet" was a deliberate misnomer.

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