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Chinese Cash Is Suddenly Toxic in Silicon Valley, Following U.S. Pressure

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Re: Chinese Cash Is Suddenly Toxic in Silicon Valley, Following U.S. Pressure

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Post by diveanon »

cwkoss wrote: post #168
dcolkitt wrote: post #30

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Not that this isn't a valid concern, but is there really any evidence that this is happening in Silicon Valley? Hong Kong's a different matter because of just how comparatively dominating and close by the mainland Chinese market is compared to the tiny city state. But in the US tech sector, the Chinese market is at best an after-thought. We're also living through probably the strongest seller's market in history when…

A reddit user from Hong Kong was recently banned from the /r/pics/ subreddit for posting about their support for the Hong Kong protests against https://www.reddit.com/r/chinareddits/comments/bz177v/got_ba... Tencent recently invested in Reddit. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-11/reddit-users-revolt-o...

I stand by my belief that reddit is one of the worst sites on the net and far far worse than Facebook when it comes to reinforcing echo chamber mentalities.

I stopped visiting the site after the pulse shooting in Orlando when moderators deleted my post listing blood donation facilities in the Orlando area.

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Post by [deleted] »

hiram112 wrote: post #212
stcredzero wrote: post #102

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“If you’re not a 10 in the U.S., you’re not a 10 in China,” officials say they’ve told the executives. Not true. If you're a 5 in the US, you're not a 10 in China. However, being Asian might well cost you a point or two in the US, depending on whom you ask. There are some weird cultural things going on in the US, in particular, manifesting as biases. I was raised in a place where we literally had to drive almost 50 m…

I agree as a white guy. Asian guys have never been particularly well placed in most US media, movies, etc. and there is a stigma when white women date them - you rarely ever see it outside of places like SF and NYC. I know for a fact my white female friends (at least in high school and college) had large biases against Asian dudes. What's worse, it seems that many American-Asian women go for white guys instead of Asi…

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Post by erklik »

mooseburger wrote: post #87
kmlx wrote: post #73

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“does not mean it is ethical to do business with China.” what kind of business?

If it's up to me, doing any business that aids the Chinese government is unethical.

Hopefully you would say the same about the Saudi's who regularly behead people in public, supress journalism and of course, have we forgotten Khashoggi. Similary the American Military has done crimes against humanity.

Bush should have been convicted of war crimes considering he ordered the military to ignore the geneva convention,

Remember that Abu Gharib's runners' were given a demotion for committing war crimes and America has laws to prevent their soldiers being punished for war crimes.

Have a read of the wikipedia page on Bagram Torture and Prisoner Abuse. The autopsies of the prisoners showed that their legs were in a condition to that similar of someone run over by a bus, they were reportedly chained to the ceiling. However, the worst punishment to anyone involved in the torture of those prisoners is of 5months prison time.[1] Also, the American Military denies the existence of a black jail at Bagram but BBC confirmed in 2010 that such a place still exists with convicts still contained in the prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagram_torture_and_prisoner_ab...

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Post by jjeaff »

bjourne wrote: post #279
citilife wrote: post #93

The reverse is also happening and is a way bigger deal. Resources are also being pulled out of China, as U.S. companies have spent the last several decades plowing tens (if not hundreds) of billions into China a year. It'll be a fairly large windfall coming out of China as well. To India, Mexico, Taiwan, the United States, etc.

Why is it ok for US companies to plow billions into China, but not for Chinese companies to plow billions into the US? Seems like a double-standard.

Problems with the overreach and missteps of the US government aside, the US is not systematically silencing its critics through censorship and forced work camps. And the human rights record of China is abysmal in comparison to the US.

To think the two are comparable is just head in the sand at this point.

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Post by happppy »

cmonnow wrote: post #276
cwkoss wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A reddit user from Hong Kong was recently banned from the /r/pics/ subreddit for posting about their support for the Hong Kong protests against https://www.reddit.com/r/chinareddits/comments/bz177v/got_ba... Tencent recently invested in Reddit. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-11/reddit-users-revolt-o...

The blatant censorship situation in r/india 'official India subreddit' is similar. Any user supporting the incumbent government or speaking against Islamic terrorism gets banned. Similar scenario on r/worldnews. Anti-Muslim posts get removed and users banned, while Anti-Hindu posts get to the front-page. Not surprising, since there are 3 mods who moderate both r/worldnews & r/india

Islamic terrorism? Indian Army is killing a number of people in Kashmir daily and still Muslims are terrorists?

Indian Agency RAW is the major sponsor of terrorist attacks and still Muslims are terrorists.

Muslims are being killed in Palestine by Israel and still Muslims are terrorists.

US attacked Afghanistan for oil and still Muslims are terrorists.

US threatening to attack Iran and still Muslims are terrorists.

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Post by siphon22 »

happppy wrote: post #285
cmonnow wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The blatant censorship situation in r/india 'official India subreddit' is similar. Any user supporting the incumbent government or speaking against Islamic terrorism gets banned. Similar scenario on r/worldnews. Anti-Muslim posts get removed and users banned, while Anti-Hindu posts get to the front-page. Not surprising, since there are 3 mods who moderate both r/worldnews & r/india

Islamic terrorism? Indian Army is killing a number of people in Kashmir daily and still Muslims are terrorists? Indian Agency RAW is the major sponsor of terrorist attacks and still Muslims are terrorists. Muslims are being killed in Palestine by Israel and still Muslims are terrorists. US attacked Afghanistan for oil and still Muslims are terrorists. US threatening to attack Iran and still Muslims are terrorists.

Other people doing bad things does not negate that Muslims also do bad things. I hate this deflection/whataboutism as if it means anything.

On another note,

>Muslims are being killed in Palestine by Israel and still Muslims are terrorists.

>US attacked Afghanistan for oil and still Muslims are terrorists.

>US threatening to attack Iran and still Muslims are terrorists.

You can talk about and criticize all three of these things freely if you want, without worrying about being retaliated against physically by extremists or being censored by platforms who are afraid of the lashback if they fail to do so as Muslims are somehow a protected minority.

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Post by qbaqbaqba »

surge wrote: post #6

Chinese investment means increased pressure on tech oligopolies* to increase censorship of media critical of China. They've been branching out to increase soft influence, keep news sites and Olympic committee from recognizing Taiwan as a separate nation. Then there's what is currently going on in Hong Kong. Chinese investor cash is effectively Chinese government investment. It's not a good thing. *edit

American corporations don't need a special encouragement to increase censorship whatsoever. Google has been censoring searches in China for ages.

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Post by _tik_ »

unbroken wrote: post #140
entropea wrote: post #123

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Why though? You could just make a bunch of whataboutism's that prove the USA has the very same horrors that China does in its own economy. Why the double standard? As someone pointed out above, this seems like xenophobia and not much else. They don't pose a war threat and any war would be initiated by USA.

No, there are no current day U.S. equivalents to the Uyghur reeducation camps, the ethnic cleansing of Tibet, and the extreme censorship. What's more, there is no evidence that China is even capable of changing course on these matters, given that their reaction to all these is to deny that they're even real, even suppressing the merest mention of them. Notably, this is not what the US does with its own wrongdoing, as…

US detention camp https://time.com/5605120/trump-migrant-children-fort-still/ US genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_19...

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Post by seventhtiger »

cmonnow wrote: post #276
cwkoss wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A reddit user from Hong Kong was recently banned from the /r/pics/ subreddit for posting about their support for the Hong Kong protests against https://www.reddit.com/r/chinareddits/comments/bz177v/got_ba... Tencent recently invested in Reddit. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-11/reddit-users-revolt-o...

The blatant censorship situation in r/india 'official India subreddit' is similar. Any user supporting the incumbent government or speaking against Islamic terrorism gets banned. Similar scenario on r/worldnews. Anti-Muslim posts get removed and users banned, while Anti-Hindu posts get to the front-page. Not surprising, since there are 3 mods who moderate both r/worldnews & r/india

Moderators on reddit reserve the right to censor their subreddits. This is not censorship by reddit, this is censorship by the users who created that community. Some communities use it quite effectively like askscience and askhistory to limit responses to certified experts, others use to enforce some minimum standard of content and to deter shitposting, while some use it to control the narrative and shape opinion.

In any case, to suggest Chinese influence on reddit censorship, either the reddit admins are doing the censorship, or the Chinese influence is somehow reaching the mods.

No one has made a good case for that that I've seen.

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Post by intended »

cmonnow wrote: post #276
cwkoss wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A reddit user from Hong Kong was recently banned from the /r/pics/ subreddit for posting about their support for the Hong Kong protests against https://www.reddit.com/r/chinareddits/comments/bz177v/got_ba... Tencent recently invested in Reddit. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-11/reddit-users-revolt-o...

The blatant censorship situation in r/india 'official India subreddit' is similar. Any user supporting the incumbent government or speaking against Islamic terrorism gets banned. Similar scenario on r/worldnews. Anti-Muslim posts get removed and users banned, while Anti-Hindu posts get to the front-page. Not surprising, since there are 3 mods who moderate both r/worldnews & r/india

>3 mods who mod both...

Ah yes, conspiracy!

Seriously, it’s like worldnews doesn’t have an army of mods, and senior mods who agree with the actions of their fellow mods.

It can’t have anything to do with the subs and users who are banned from r/India for harassing normal people, islamaphobia, Alls for genocide and so on, right?

I mean, it’s not like there’s THREE right wing pro govt Indian subreddits which constantly harangue and badger the main sub, attack ABCDesis and are coordinating some sort of absurd propaganda war to make it seem that r/India is.... what?

No no. It’s a conspiracy.

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