Chinese Cash Is Suddenly Toxic in Silicon Valley, Following U.S. Pressure

Post by 9HZZRfNlpR » Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:24 PM UTC

megous wrote: post #143

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Is this very different from Americans though ? Americans have forced all nations to treat Iran as a terrorist state when it is very friendly to rest of the world compared to Saudi. Saudi Barbaria exists only because of Americans. Can we say with certainty that American money isn't coming to other countries with strings attached ?

Friendly? With all the bomb and assassination plots? Not friendly to Europe. https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1137831840188948485

Post by dang » Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

lenzm wrote: post #127

entropea wrote: post #104

Could somebody explain to me the vicious American hate for China from a totally uninformed viewpoint? Any links to read why I should also dislike China?

From a very broad moral perspective, their human rights violations are legion[1] including large open air internment camps for ethnic/religious minorities like the Uyghur[2], political imprisonment[3], alleged organ harvesting of prisoners[4], supporting North Korea ... From a purely tech perspective, state-sponsored hacking[5] and IP theft[6] are common. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China [2] ht…

Post by z0r » Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:26 PM UTC

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I don't think being suspicious of a country that has its citizens in literal concentration camps is "vicious hate". It's not a bad thing to turn a critical eye towards authoritarian states and questions their money and motives. Likewise, people should be critical of the US and its role in human rights violations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps https://www.france24.com/en/20190510-reporters-…

USA has 2.3 million incarcerated and prison slavery is legal under the 13th amendment, a lot incarcerated based on race and for very small crimes. A lot of those prisons also have very rough conditions and prisoners are exposed to violent and inhumane treatment. This is extremely unethical. Why is this any different? Companies send their work to these prisons for literal slave labor and I never see anyone up in arms…

Post by everdrive » Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:26 PM UTC

entropea wrote: post #132

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From a very broad moral perspective, their human rights violations are legion[1] including large open air internment camps for ethnic/religious minorities like the Uyghur[2], political imprisonment[3], alleged organ harvesting of prisoners[4], supporting North Korea ... From a purely tech perspective, state-sponsored hacking[5] and IP theft[6] are common. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China [2] ht…

Those are all things the USA has done in its past, and currently holds 2.3 million in prison with prison slavery legalized. Some of those are just "alleged" too.

Post by dang » Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:28 PM UTC

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Please do not take HN threads on generic flamewar tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I usually don’t reply to moderators but these are simple economic facts. 1. A law was passed that meant we take more money than we bring in. 2. When you spend more than you bring in that causes debt. 3. China holds much of our debt. Which part of that is factually incorrect? I would have made the same comment about a Democratic President. If you look at my posting history, I routinely bemoan the celebration of unprof…