This article seems to be ranking how well the scooters comply with the local GPS based speed restrictions which don’t apply everywhere. I’ve only ridden a couple of them but I prefer the old generation Lime, it seems to be the quickest accelerating with highest top speed and the disc brake is better than other options that have regenerative only. My area doesn’t have GPS based speed restrictions though (they do have GPS based parking restrictions)
I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
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Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#62This is the first I've heard of people tampering with the brake systems - it's incredibly malicious. I understand some people might be frustrated by the scooters, but is manslaughter really the right way to go about it?
Pure BS, The first manslaughter will be due to the scooter that runs into a kid.
Stay off the sidewalks.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#63This is the first I've heard of people tampering with the brake systems - it's incredibly malicious. I understand some people might be frustrated by the scooters, but is manslaughter really the right way to go about it?
Story here in Lyon, France, yesterday about a less-dangerous attack on the electric scooters: instead of cutting the brake cables, vandals are painting over the QR code instead. No QR code to scan means no useable scooter. Link in French: https://www.leprogres.fr/rhone-69/2019/06/10/a-lyon-les-trot...
I like it - is there a way to block the antenna ?
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#64This is the first I've heard of people tampering with the brake systems - it's incredibly malicious. I understand some people might be frustrated by the scooters, but is manslaughter really the right way to go about it?
Yeah, having ridden Birds around Paris at 25 km/h without ever considering this (I think they had lever brakes with cables too), this is terrifying. People are crazy.
The insane part is riding at 25 km/h without a sufficient breaking system, horn and or a license. Take a bus, walk or buy a motorcycle.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand that rules for bike paths depend on local jurisdiction, but why wouldn't an e-scooter fit a bike path in Venice, CA? Over here (Finland, like all of Europe) we have roads, we have bike paths, and we have pedestrian pavements. E-scooters are always good for bike paths, and if they move faster than 15 km/h, they are not to be ridden in pedestrian areas, only bike paths, even if they are not exactly bikes.…
In Los Angeles, Motorized vehicles are not permitted on sidewalks and paths. As a rider, you are liable for all personal injuries that result from your riding. Without insurance, you are putting your financial life in jeopardy. Think about it!
>Without insurance, you are putting your financial life in jeopardy. Think about it!
In addition to riders, if the scooter is a rental, I think there is a pretty solid claim to be made against the tech companies who scatter these scooters throughout cities (often times illegally) and allow them to be rented by anyone (with no training, no education of rules of the road, no offering of helmets, I’m not sure these thing come equipped with safety lights of any kind, etc...).
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#66Maybe I'm coming into this with low expectations; the best we have in NYC is the CitiBikes (by Motivate) that are strictly human powered, dock-based, and not cheap. But I love these scooters and would vote for any candidate for mayor that made it a priority to remove the blocks preventing these things from being issued. When I was in Venice on business, I used all of these scooters (except the 'Wheels', which to me l…
Selfish prick
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#67During the single day of this test, I found three Wheels with intentionally cut brake lines WTF is wrong with people? I understand these things are annoying and litter sidewalks, but intentionally cutting brakes to harm someone? Jeez, this is just shitty behavior
You know what shitty behavior is ? Riding on the sidewalks. Fucking with these scooters in any manner is a form of resistance.
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Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand that rules for bike paths depend on local jurisdiction, but why wouldn't an e-scooter fit a bike path in Venice, CA? Over here (Finland, like all of Europe) we have roads, we have bike paths, and we have pedestrian pavements. E-scooters are always good for bike paths, and if they move faster than 15 km/h, they are not to be ridden in pedestrian areas, only bike paths, even if they are not exactly bikes.…
> Over here (Finland, like all of Europe) we have roads, we have bike paths, and we have pedestrian pavements. E-scooters are always good for bike paths Are you sure about that? Because it's not an EN15194 LEV, so whether it's considered a bike (allowed on bike paths) or a moped (not so) [edit: or are completely illegal as jdietrich reminds me] is a local / national concern. For instance France just passed a law whic…
Yes, in Germany e-scooters are legal to drive on bike paths and streets this week. You have to have insurance though, there is a max. speed of 20km/h and it needs lights and everything.
But if these scooters fit the requirements, they seem similar enough to bikes to allow them to drive on bike paths and streets.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#69During the single day of this test, I found three Wheels with intentionally cut brake lines WTF is wrong with people? I understand these things are annoying and litter sidewalks, but intentionally cutting brakes to harm someone? Jeez, this is just shitty behavior
You know what shitty behavior is ? Riding on the sidewalks. Fucking with these scooters in any manner is a form of resistance.
I understand why people want to fuck with these, but cutting brakes is taking it too far. This is just lazy, disgusting form or "resistance", as you call it. Somebody commented about painting over the QR code, that seems sensible.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed. The ones he rated poorly were the ones that tried to prevent him from breaking Los Angeles City Municipal Code 63.44.
Yes, but I like the ability to make that choice. My car is not governed, why should my scooter be? This is not unreasonble, even if inconvenient thinking.
I would generally be in favour of restrictions that stopped cars driving on cycle lanes.