Is there a cargo scooter/bike that can carry groceries? I'm not asking for more cargo than I can carry in my hands, but I can't imagine carrying more than a gallon of milk home in one of these.
Any of them, if you own a backpack
I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
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Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#32> We’ve restricted our entrants to scooter-type vehicles (as opposed to e-assist bicycles) And then the conclusion is that the most bicycle-like one is best because it's more bicycle-like. Seems like a category arbitrage rather than a fair analysis of mobility options.
I regularly ride my e-bike in SF but have also dabbled with the rental scooters. I have a hard time understanding the scooters' popularity, compared to a rentable e-bike like the Jump or Lime bikes. In my experience e-bikes have the advantage in top speed, stability, comfort and safety. Other than taking up marginally more space when parked, I can't think of any downsides. This matches the article author's conclusion…
Barrier of entry.
Folks like me that haven't ridden a bike since they were a kid are scared as hell of riding around traffic. Scooters are much more approachable.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#33Good write up. I wonder if people would have such a problem with these scooters, if they simply sat upright when left instead of falling over. Most photos I see of these scooters, are "piles" of them, or them strewn on the sidewalk. Even with kickstands, I doubt users would leave them in neat order - however I wonder if there's an engineering solution that would prevent them from falling, or at least encourage people…
In theory, some of them have gyroscope things that can send a signal if they are not upright.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#34Maybe I'm coming into this with low expectations; the best we have in NYC is the CitiBikes (by Motivate) that are strictly human powered, dock-based, and not cheap. But I love these scooters and would vote for any candidate for mayor that made it a priority to remove the blocks preventing these things from being issued. When I was in Venice on business, I used all of these scooters (except the 'Wheels', which to me l…
I've started to see quite a few electric moped/scooters by Revel [1,2] parked around Brooklyn.
[1] https://gorevel.com/ [2] https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/shared-mini-motorcycl...
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#35I was somewhat annoyed by the penalising of scooters that stopped you riding on cycle paths; presumably you aren't meant to use them on there, hence the restriction.
If so, the company that limits speed to 3MPH - enough to exit the cycle path - is doing it exactly right.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope you weren't on the sidewalk at this speed
They have true dedicated bike lanes in Paris. Taken from the car lanes to reduce most streets to 2 lanes. The only things allowed on the sidewalks are people, pets, prams, and cafe tables and chairs.
How about those moped-shaped electric wheelchair buggies? (I’ve always wondered what the proper “lane” for those is; they go fast enough and have enough momentum that they’re dangerous on the sidewalk, but they’re unprotected enough that it’s dangerous for them to be in the bike lane, let alone a car lane.)
...or do those even exist outside of America (and maybe the ex-Commonwealth)?
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#37During the single day of this test, I found three Wheels with intentionally cut brake lines WTF is wrong with people? I understand these things are annoying and litter sidewalks, but intentionally cutting brakes to harm someone? Jeez, this is just shitty behavior
Evil and insane people unfortunately do exist. Some of the failures of modern technology are directly related to refusing or ignoring this inconvenient truth.
And some of the worst abuses of power and technology have come from assuming that evil people are relatively common rather than extremely rare.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#38> We’ve restricted our entrants to scooter-type vehicles (as opposed to e-assist bicycles) And then the conclusion is that the most bicycle-like one is best because it's more bicycle-like. Seems like a category arbitrage rather than a fair analysis of mobility options.
I regularly ride my e-bike in SF but have also dabbled with the rental scooters. I have a hard time understanding the scooters' popularity, compared to a rentable e-bike like the Jump or Lime bikes. In my experience e-bikes have the advantage in top speed, stability, comfort and safety. Other than taking up marginally more space when parked, I can't think of any downsides. This matches the article author's conclusion…
It's trivial to take your e-scooter with you in the subway, in your car and in your office.
Re: I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful except two
#39> We’ve restricted our entrants to scooter-type vehicles (as opposed to e-assist bicycles) And then the conclusion is that the most bicycle-like one is best because it's more bicycle-like. Seems like a category arbitrage rather than a fair analysis of mobility options.
I regularly ride my e-bike in SF but have also dabbled with the rental scooters. I have a hard time understanding the scooters' popularity, compared to a rentable e-bike like the Jump or Lime bikes. In my experience e-bikes have the advantage in top speed, stability, comfort and safety. Other than taking up marginally more space when parked, I can't think of any downsides. This matches the article author's conclusion…
Maybe partly because scooters are less regulated (at least until they started doing this...)