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How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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My WeWork has three kinds of clients. The first kind sit in the dedicated desk area, work 10-12 hours/day and rarely leave the space for community events. They're either serious consultants/freelancers or just starting their own startups. The second kind sit in the shared desk area and basically dick around all day. They attend all the community events and use WeWork as mostly a networking/dating hub. Who they networ…

It's interesting that godaddy would opt for a wework rather than leasing office space and setting it up. Probably less cost and hassle?

My naive view is that it's similar to the reason some companies use AWS rather than running their own data center. That is, it's worth it to pay the premium to not have to manage their own space, and have the flexibility to scale up/down their usage a bit more quickly than locking into multi-year leases.

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That works great for apartments zoned as commercial or mixed-use. I don't think that is common.

But this company would disrupt! Things like zoning laws aren’t cool, so we’ll move fast and break them!

Raise enough money to hire lobbyists!

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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I'm not a believer in WW's business model, but this is an overly-cynical take. We're a company that "started" in WeWork, have our own office now, and in fact moved a different office of ours from a private space in Long Island to a WeWork in Manhattan. What WeWork offers to small businesses is quite valuable: an instantly-obtainable month-to-month lease, at relatively reasonable rates, with all standard office amenit…

It's much easier to offer people something they want if you are undercutting your competition by subsidizing your business with dumb investor money.

I guess that is a shorter way of saying the exact same thing I just said, yes.

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"“valuation and size today are much more based on our energy and spirituality than it is on a multiple of revenue.”" Literally valuation based on 'spirituality'. Not only do I call 'bubble' but also 'BS'. Very wary of companies leveraging 'morality' in whatever form (esp. all the way up to 'Spirituality'), unless it's somehow deeply authentic (i.e. a company that makes 'green' eqipment can claim 'greeness' that's fin…

I have to give you props for "Donald Trump of vegans"

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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I have the next billion-dollar business idea, an " Airbnb for coworking spaces". Convert your existing house to a co-working space. Looked at Wework, already pay too much for rent in the Bay area. I work from home, and would not mind the company. Got good coffee and great beer as well!

While there are a few companies that are actually trying to build this idea with renting out homes by the hour, at Out Of Office[0] we're working on a similar concept of a more general marketplace for coworking spaces. We've scouted hundreds of locations in San Francisco, both free and bookable, that you can search for in our app. You can find coffee shops, hotel lobbies, public spaces, or book private desks, and con…

Interesting. Can you drop me an email at $myHNusername @ gmail? I would need to discuss a couple of things with you.

Thanks!

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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By taking an old stodgy business (commercial real estate) and bringing it in conformance with modern expectations of design, ease of transactions, lease length, and vibe. The real estate owners couldn’t be bothered to do this because they make too much money by doing nothing to bother with doing something for an extra $47b (a rounding error on the value of global commercial real estate) The huge fundraising rounds ar…

So many of these unicorns seem so stupidly simple in hindsight. I'm in St Petersburg right now and the taxi outside the train station quoted an initial rate of EUR 50 to drive a grand total of 6km (after haggling, "just" EUR 30). I booked an Uber (operated under Yandex Taxi in Russia now) and the total price was just EUR 5 Take stodgy, often scammy, and downright consumer unfriendly industries, add transparency and a…

> So many of these unicorns seem so stupidly simple in hindsight.

The "stupidly" part comes in when you realize that maybe the cabbie had a better grasp of the economics of his business when he accepted your bid of 30 EUR. The gig economy people driving you for a fraction of the 5 EUR you paid might come to the same conclusion sooner or later.

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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>Most viable businesses with a steady revenue stream can afford to rent office space and furnish it on their own Yes, but do they want to? My experience is that companies increasingly want to focus on their core competencies and nothing else, especially if the non core areas come with overhead in the form of full time employees. I could easily see non-HQ locations outsourced to a company like WeWork. For a satellite…

It's a bit like the discussions you read around cloud provider costs vs. doing things in-house (or whatever). There are a lot of overheads associated with a big company doing peripheral tasks in-house. For example, to your point, that 50 person satellite office probably needs a full-time office manager and then all the costs that percolate upstream associated with having a full-time office manager and another lease t…

I know I definitely would not want to attempt any kind of serious work where other people start partying at 4PM.

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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For all the criticism that modern media gets regarding journalistic standards around coverage of big business, it's remarkable that they will lead with eye-popping valuation numbers in their headlines when they know that they are more or less a fiction concocted by VCs.

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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I have the next billion-dollar business idea, an " Airbnb for coworking spaces". Convert your existing house to a co-working space. Looked at Wework, already pay too much for rent in the Bay area. I work from home, and would not mind the company. Got good coffee and great beer as well!

While there are a few companies that are actually trying to build this idea with renting out homes by the hour, at Out Of Office[0] we're working on a similar concept of a more general marketplace for coworking spaces. We've scouted hundreds of locations in San Francisco, both free and bookable, that you can search for in our app. You can find coffee shops, hotel lobbies, public spaces, or book private desks, and con…

That coffee cup about to fall is giving me serious anxiety.

Re: How Did WeWork’s Adam Neumann Build a $47B Company?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While there are a few companies that are actually trying to build this idea with renting out homes by the hour, at Out Of Office[0] we're working on a similar concept of a more general marketplace for coworking spaces. We've scouted hundreds of locations in San Francisco, both free and bookable, that you can search for in our app. You can find coffee shops, hotel lobbies, public spaces, or book private desks, and con…

Interesting. Can you drop me an email at $myHNusername @ gmail? I would need to discuss a couple of things with you. Thanks!

Sure, just sent you an email.
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