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Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by nmcfarl »

pjriot wrote: post #44
Andrenid wrote: post #13

I doubt we'll see it open sourced, or saved in any form by Yahoo. It's too much cost/effort for them, when that's the reason they're scrapping it in the first place. What i'd like to see is people quickly rolling out tools that help us get our Delicious bookmarks into other sites easier. Eg into Google Bookmarks. That currently requires you to install the Google Toolbar and import them through that (ugh).

You want a tool to do this job so you can avoid installing google toolbar? How much do you reckon thats worth to you?

I'd say a lot, because to do the import you have to swamp your firefox bookmarks structure with your delicious one, and then import those using the toolbar. Of course this looses all of the tags, and comments, which are pretty much the whole point of delicious.

A system that actually gets all the data from delicious into google bookmarks seems to be worth while.

Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by thesethings »

rryan wrote: post #49
thesethings wrote: post #11

Google has open sourced: Jaiku, Etherpad, Wave among other things, before closing them down. Open sourcing it wouldn't solve the discovery/hosting part, but I still think they should do it. I'm sure it wouldn't be "easy," but it wouldn't be unprecedented. Yahoo! folks also should take a look at dataliberation.org, for best practices on getting on data out (also a Google joint). (Nope, I don't work for Google :D, just…

Data liberation is different from open-sourcing. Delicious allows you to dump every bit of metadata about your bookmarks either through their Data Export menu or via their API. Yahoo! did fine with Delicious in terms of data liberation. I imported all my bookmarks into pinboard.in without any trouble at all.

Definitely agree that data liberation is different that open source, I meant to express them as two separate ideas. Maybe that didn't come across.

A bit of data I'd like to get out of delicious that i can't right now, is social stuff/ relationship stuff. It really helped w/discovery.

Though you're totally right: link stuff is thorough.

Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by gscott »

codybrown wrote: post #2

We are also compiling stories about present use cases of Delicious. If you are a user, post them here and I'll update the question.

I will miss Delicious, I would post a link then use Mechanical Turk to have about 80 to 200 other people also post the same link, then the link would be duplicated on other sites that show "popular" links, social aggregator sites would create a "conversation" about the link, etc. Pretty soon you have 100 sites that link back to yours. Now that is all going away.

Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by koenigdavidmj »

ffffruit wrote: post #39

Couldn't we do a service where delicious users can export all their bookmarks (bar private ones if they want) and then send them onto a aggregator so a new service can pick up where delicious left. I am assuming here that technically delicious is not (very) challenging, its the data that is precious.

Delicious already provides an export mechanism. It is up to other services to read that format.

http://www.delicious.com/settings/bookmarks/export

Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by silentbicycle »

revicon wrote: post #24

For ppl who haven't exported their bookmarks yet, I wrote a quick webapp to help (for the command line skittish) http://mattcrampton.com/delicious

For non-command-line-skittish people (on Unix), you can say something like

    wget --quiet --http-user=`head -n 1 ~/.deliciousrc` --http-passwd=`tail -n 1 ~/.deliciousrc` -O ~/docs/delicious.xml http://del.icio.us/api/posts/all
where ~/.deliciousrc is a text file with two lines:

   yourusername
   yourpassword
(or something similar with curl)

I run this out of cron nightly and back up my bookmarks in a git repo, along with my other dotfiles. I really appreciate services like delicious, but I don't trust them.

I'm going to miss delicious's data set, though. Searching a really big link collection with tags was great - I found a really good Ethiopian cookbook, some good+obscure research papers, and lots of other stuff that way.

Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by abraham »

simonw wrote: post #7

joshu on Twitter: http://twitter.com/joshu/status/15492062459731968 "@cdixon open sourcing it would be an enormous pain in the ass. selling it not as bad but yahoo infrastructure and auth problematic." Besides that, open sourcing delicious wouldn't solve the problem - someone still has to host it, and maintain it, and import several million people's bookmark collections in to it. That takes significant time and money…

Jaiku seems to be running strong on App Engine so it is possible to open source a large application and have it keep jugging on. I don't see Yahoo being interested in porting to GAE though.

Re: Hey Yahoo, Can you please open source Delicious?

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Post by photon_off »

simonw wrote: post #7

joshu on Twitter: http://twitter.com/joshu/status/15492062459731968 "@cdixon open sourcing it would be an enormous pain in the ass. selling it not as bad but yahoo infrastructure and auth problematic." Besides that, open sourcing delicious wouldn't solve the problem - someone still has to host it, and maintain it, and import several million people's bookmark collections in to it. That takes significant time and money…

I've taken a quarter of a million of the most popular bookmarks from thousands of tags, and created a similarity search engine with it. Seems to be working pretty well. Thank you, delicious.
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