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Re: Always Own Your Platform

#131

Wappalyzer says the site is using Cloudflare. Doesn't Cloudflare have many of the same issues the article discusses? https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-terminates-service-to-sc... https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-kicking-daily-stormer-is...

Not really, no.

Unless you use things like Cloudflare workers, there's basically no lock-in. Your visitors wouldn't even notice if you switched from Cloudflare.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

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post #7

No point in owning your own platform unless you are in the business of building and running a platform. The real advice is to always be ready to abandon your platform at any moment and move on to a new one should its policies no longer be in your favor. Always be preparing for this scenario. What’s your contingency plan?

Why give the platform all that seo. In the long past era we used to have a bunch of random webshops. Now sellers can barely survive unless they are on Etsy eBay or Amazon. We gave them all that free SEO and now we are wishing we didn't.

> Why give the platform all that seo.

Because the business-person gets something valuable in return. It's a fine tradeoff to make if you make it explicitly and have a strategy.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The instant your website requires a database query to build the front page you're susceptible to the HN hug of death. Obviously you can build a scalable solution to handle traffic spikes, but there will always be the danger. If you're talking about an ordinary webserver giving out an ordinary webpage you will run out of bandwidth long before you overload the server.

That's a bit dramatic. I've load-tested database backed sites on $5/month DO droplets and gotten > 1k requests per second for extended tests. My primary site not only stores articles in the DB, but runs them through an extended, custom markdown parser upon retrieval, and processes and reports event data on every page load. It was still successfully returning ~250 reqs/sec before I'd bothered implementing any caching…

> In contrast, people recently HNed[1] are reporting about 12-15k visits over a day.

This matches my experience. I think I got about 10k visits over the course of a day, 80% within the first three hours.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

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post #118
post #45

Talking to the HN crowd about platform ownership is pointless. It's obvious that most people here are not able or willing to grasp the long-term consequences of super-centralization, including many so-called security and scalability experts. Not a big surprise, because a lot of them work for highly centralized platforms, aspire to become one, or to be bough by one.

Of course the HN crowd is willing and able to grasp the long-term consequences of super-centralization. But we also recognize that for the vast majority of the population, some of the benefits that a centralized solution provides - such as UX, discoverability and 'it just works' - are essential, and so far none of the well-meaning open alternatives can compete on those parameters, no matter how much I cheer for their…

> UX, discoverability and 'it just works'

None of those are inherent to preventing users from controlling their data. A company can create (and make money off of) a product that provides all of them while using open protocols and data formats, with easy export functionality. I think the bigger problem is that users don't care whether they control their data, and companies are incentivized to maintain that control.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

#135
To add to this message:

Use existing FAANG-or-whoever platform for what it's good at - finding target audience and land them on YOUR platform. Incentivize people to join your platform.

NEVER rely 100% of your business to other guy platform. Otherwise you're on a mercy of TOS and political, religious and whatever beliefs of the other guy.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

#136

I already do. https://wordsandbuttons.online/ is just a static script-maintainable stand alone site. It has no 3rd-party platform but the web hosting. Moreover, I own the domain and don't really rely on anything provider-specific. I can migrate it any day and users wouldn't notice a thing. I also use GitHub to host sources https://github.com/akalenuk/wordsandbuttons but it's just a convenience not a necessity. The wh…

I took a similar path with my personal site. I did get to the point though where I didn't want to duplicate things like my site banner across all my pages, so I ended up writing a very barebones site generator[0] for compiling handlebars templates.

[0] https://github.com/anderspitman/assg

Re: Always Own Your Platform

#137
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? HN probably has the largest proportion of people who maintain their own websites out of any other major aggregator community.

>HN probably has the largest proportion of people who maintain their own websites ...on AWS.

Or hosted by one of the large AMP caches with signed HTTP exchanges, if Google gets its way.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

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post #125

Also, unavailable to most people. Yes, I suppose it was kind of nice when the internet was only available to the tech-savvy, to those who didn't mind maintaining a second job as a Unix administrator. But for people who just wanted to _write_, it was not welcoming. Yes, you can go to wordpress.com and sign up for your own blog, but then you're just on the wordpress platform, and subject to their whims. If your plan wo…

It never was too high, the bar for what constitutes an education in at least the US has been far too low for far too long.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

#139
post #121

If you ask me, we're already past the point of this being effective. Coming from the perspective of creating and selling a PC game, do you really think you can be successful by posting it up on your website with a Stripe checkout button? (Actually you shouldn't even be using Stripe, but I digress). If you do, you're fooling yourself. I think the same could be extended to a number of industries, e.g crafts that are so…

I think the spirit of the post is going ahead and host your PC game on steam or whatever platform you want, but also host it on your own site so you're not completely beholden to a third party.

Re: Always Own Your Platform

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post #77

I already do. https://wordsandbuttons.online/ is just a static script-maintainable stand alone site. It has no 3rd-party platform but the web hosting. Moreover, I own the domain and don't really rely on anything provider-specific. I can migrate it any day and users wouldn't notice a thing. I also use GitHub to host sources https://github.com/akalenuk/wordsandbuttons but it's just a convenience not a necessity. The wh…

How do you host it? Do you own the machine, or use a cloud VM?

I used to have a dedicated server, but I figured that with my needs, cheap shared hosting works just as good and at a fraction of a cost.
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