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Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by kfk »

So I have to deal with both tools at my company. The reality is that it all feels so incomplete from a BI standpoint. Managers are throwing money at front end tools like Salesforce and Tableau, but the entire back end stack is still pretty much the same as 20-30 years ago (big expensive Oracle-ish databases).

I think the development of Python and Jupyter and other less known things like Vega are much more interesting. Python is today the only "glue code" that puts all of it together, from data to insights.

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by Arcanum-XIII »

ben_jones wrote: post #121

I'm responsible for external salesforce integrations at my company, this is a really critical acquisition. Salesforce feature categories are surprisingly easy to compete with (be it LeadSourcing, Pipeline Management, 3rd Party App distribution, Licensing, Performance, Design, etc.) because they do a relatively average job at each of them. There are dozens of competitors springing up, many of whom target one of these…

Honestly, while doing some business analyst job for a company, the higher up keep on bringing Salesforce as something we should consider for a B2C project. Their marketing force is something to recon - and the lack of basic knowledge about what they wanted to put on the market was frightening. So, they’re not the best? People don’t seem to think clearly about this :(

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by aceregen »

luckydata wrote: post #91
antisocial wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going through a QuickSight presentation and looks like it's up to 90% cheaper than Tableau!

It's also a piece of crap tbh.

I'm curious to learn about your experience with it. What wre your thoughts?

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by aceregen »

code4tee wrote: post #39

Salesforce appears increasingly worried about being pigeonholed as a CRM product and wants to ride the data wave and be seen as a data product. I’m not sure this acquisition makes a lot of sense though. The Tableau fad seems to be fading as people realize that while it’s a nice glorified Excel it doesn’t really solve the data issues most companies have. It seems like a very high price for a product that may be past i…

Hi, like to learn more about some of the data issues you see most companies have that Tableau can't address (outside of glorified Excel)?

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by MR4D »

dmor wrote: post #104
monkeydust wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also second this, product guy here who has been using Tableau for years. Curious about Meltano. Went through some of the site / installation guide / videos and then the gitlab issues log and then found myself back here :) Would like to see a few simple, visual stories about how one could derive business value from meltano, ideally real-life use-cases but if you dont have those yet just make them up.

Thank you for taking a look, you're right and we are working on it right now. This is perhaps a little more attention than we expected for our tiny 5 person project, and lights a great fire under us!

Also, you may want to set up a Patreon page, or other crowd-funding site if you're making this all open source.

There are companies that will pay for it just to have the alternative available to places like Tableau.

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by jjtheblunt »

kfk wrote: post #141

So I have to deal with both tools at my company. The reality is that it all feels so incomplete from a BI standpoint. Managers are throwing money at front end tools like Salesforce and Tableau, but the entire back end stack is still pretty much the same as 20-30 years ago (big expensive Oracle-ish databases). I think the development of Python and Jupyter and other less known things like Vega are much more interesting…

What is Vega?

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by tarp »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #147
kfk wrote: post #141

So I have to deal with both tools at my company. The reality is that it all feels so incomplete from a BI standpoint. Managers are throwing money at front end tools like Salesforce and Tableau, but the entire back end stack is still pretty much the same as 20-30 years ago (big expensive Oracle-ish databases). I think the development of Python and Jupyter and other less known things like Vega are much more interesting…

What is Vega?

> The goal of the Vega project is to promote an ecosystem of usable and interoperable tools, supporting use cases ranging from exploratory data analysis to effective communication via custom visualization design.[0]

0: https://vega.github.io/vega/about/

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by kwillets »

crescentfresh wrote: post #76
ackbar03 wrote: post #7

I never really understood tableu, it just makes fancy graphs from your data doesn't it? What's new about it?

At my place, somebody a while back drank the Tableau koolaid and quickly designed some nice looking graphs and sold the commercial team on its value, and the president signed a check for a license. The software team was then tasked with putting the fancy graphs that guy did into our web application with the following constraints: - the Tableau server can't be exposed on the public internet - our UI can't indicate tha…

>The next task coming up is that they want users to be able to ad-hoc schedule an email to themselves with the fancy graphs attached as a pdf, so we've got that to look forward to.

This is the endgame of every OLAP tool. But execs really love this feature.

Re: Salesforce is buying Tableau for $15.7B

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Post by TadaScientist »

I believe I ought to mention R studio as an alternative.

What Tableau does, R libraries can do better.

https://www.showmeshiny.com/ https://gallery.htmlwidgets.org/ https://www.r-graph-gallery.com/

with shiny / D3 and general JS support.

ps; i am not affiliated with any of these sites or libraries.

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