I agree with the advice although you can often make use of platforms without sacrificing too much in terms of SEO. For example, Medium and dev.to both allow you to import blog posts from your own site and they set the canonical URL to the original post hosted wherever you want.
Always Own Your Platform
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#42Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Always Own Your Platform
Talk about a self-defeating message. Now I get timeouts. Things you get on BigEvilHost's platform:
* SEO, discoverability
* ability to handle HN hug-of-death
* distribution
* some SRE/dev-op makes sure your article isn't 404'd
* backups
etc.
> Avoid unnecessary middlemen.
They just proved why they're necessary.
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#43From the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20190324154559/http://alwaysowny... > You know, it wasn't that long ago. There was RSS. There were blogs. There were sub-groups and communities. The weirdos found each other. The non-weirdos found each other. It wasn't perfect. But it was distributed. It was ours. > It was yours. > Now? The original dream of the web is dying. Facebook, Google, Twitter, Medium, and…
Are you seriously trying to say that he can't make this point unless he builds his own twitter?
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#44Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Always Own Your Platform
Talk about a self-defeating message. Now I get timeouts. Things you get on BigEvilHost's platform: * SEO, discoverability * ability to handle HN hug-of-death * distribution * some SRE/dev-op makes sure your article isn't 404'd * backups etc. > Avoid unnecessary middlemen. They just proved why they're necessary.
Everyone (or at least most people here) knows that Google has all those advantages. The issue is that we keep falling back on those advantages, rather than doing the work necessary to make owning your own platform realistic.
I also laughed at the irony of OP's site going down, but these are the growing pains that will ultimately be necessary if we don't want the internet to be walled gardens run by 3-4 companies.
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#45Talking to the HN crowd about platform ownership is pointless. It's obvious that most people here are not able or willing to grasp the long-term consequences of super-centralization, including many so-called security and scalability experts. Not a big surprise, because a lot of them work for highly centralized platforms, aspire to become one, or to be bough by one.
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#46Talking to the HN crowd about platform ownership is pointless. It's obvious that most people here are not able or willing to grasp the long-term consequences of super-centralization, including many so-called security and scalability experts. Not a big surprise, because a lot of them work for highly centralized platforms, aspire to become one, or to be bough by one.
I bet most people here totally grasp the long term consequences; it's just that they are eager to grab the short term benefits.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't this what platforms like hackernews or google do? Solving the empty room problem while still letting you own your own platform.
They solve it poorly. That's why HN allows up to three resubmissions for interesting material that fails to make the front page. A lot of well-deserving stuff still doesn't get lucky, and never makes the front page.
What does / would solve it well?
Edit: also, for hackernews, why should it be about reaching the front page? There is only so much space there, and not reaching it does not mean not reaching anyone.
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#48From the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20190324154559/http://alwaysowny... > You know, it wasn't that long ago. There was RSS. There were blogs. There were sub-groups and communities. The weirdos found each other. The non-weirdos found each other. It wasn't perfect. But it was distributed. It was ours. > It was yours. > Now? The original dream of the web is dying. Facebook, Google, Twitter, Medium, and…
I don't own HN, should I not post here? Seriously, is the recommendation that everyone who posts content own the platform? That's impossible to have a shared location for content.
If you were relying on HN as a place to build your own brand, and maybe a business, in a way that was not robust to the future whims of HN's operators...then no, you should not post here.
If you're like me and just want to fuck around during the day and post a few things, then it's totally fine.
Searching for trivial proofs by contradiction in fields with lots of fuzzy variables is one of the worst habits of math/CS people.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Solve the underlying problem, which is: What do I do now so that when the platform doesn't work, I still can? Now the answer is obvious: you don't need to stop using platforms, you need to stop being dependent on any given platform. Store all your videos in two different storage providers, plus your house archive. Have accounts on at least two different video distribution systems. Get people interested in seeing your…
good advice to follow, but the problem is... if you are 21 y.o. vlogger focused on barbell training and restoring old american muscle cars, this advice will sound like "dude just do more straight deadlifts and focus on hi-rep kroc rows, they will help you with development of your back" -- aka, some special gibberish speak. it takes so much knowledge to do so, it just won't happen.
People can learn how to do these things.
Sometimes, they don't want to.
Sometimes, they would rather not.
Sometimes, they would rather pay more money or spend less effort.
I would guess that your hypothetical vlogger is likely to just open a Youtube channel and pray, and they will get results consistent with that. It's not a business plan, and they didn't ask my advice.
If you see a business opportunity in making these things comprehensible or easier or more affordable to vloggers, you should go ahead and do that.