Excellent idea bundling VPN and cloud storage. Currently using proton and iCloud (mostly though relying on self hosted Nextcloud). Hopefully they’ll offer NextCloud too.
Mozilla will reportedly launch a paid version of Firefox this fall
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#12I'll buy whatever they're selling. I'm very happy with Firefox quantum, and I'd like Mozilla to have a sustainable income that doesn't come from the AdTech/surveillance industry.
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Better than Chrome will ever be.
That's open to discussion. Even if Chrome sends your data to Google (and it probably sends more data than Firefox), at least you know the data is being received by Google and not by unrelated third parties, like when Mozilla sent full URL history of some users to an advertisement company: https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-i...
The logic here is that Google will never send/sell your data to third parties ?
How do you think Facebook et al gets a hold of your google data ? How do you think companies like Cambridge Analytica thrive ?
I am genuinely curious to know what your view of the world on these topics is and why are you so insistently (and apparently naively) defending google in this regard.
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#14Interesting bundling their services via the browser. Its a single point of entry vs Google (seemingly) access disjoint. Password management, notes, file transfer (and storage?) browse and secure connections through one browser is something I think Id want.
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#15This is really scary. I keep getting messages from friends I converted to Signal, asking me to go back to WhatsApp since Facebook has a deal with their providers to not charge WhatsApp data.
Now picture those able to afford their first mobile plan, they don’t have disposable income, they don’t have the option to pay for Firefox, I’m afraid this will drive people to use Google even more.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's open to discussion. Even if Chrome sends your data to Google (and it probably sends more data than Firefox), at least you know the data is being received by Google and not by unrelated third parties, like when Mozilla sent full URL history of some users to an advertisement company: https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-i...
The logic here is that Google will never send/sell your data to third parties ? How do you think Facebook et al gets a hold of your google data ? How do you think companies like Cambridge Analytica thrive ? I am genuinely curious to know what your view of the world on these topics is and why are you so insistently (and apparently naively) defending google in this regard.
I said Firefox is bad at protecting my privacy. Someone compared Mozilla to Google, so I said that even Google is better. In other words I'm not defending Google, I'm saying Mozilla is even worse. I despise Google, too.
What's your proof that Google gives your data to Facebook? That doesn't sound right. On the other hand, I showed proof that Mozilla gives your personal data (list of URLs you visit, no less!) to a third party.
Re: Mozilla will reportedly launch a paid version of Firefox this fall
#17This is really scary. I keep getting messages from friends I converted to Signal, asking me to go back to WhatsApp since Facebook has a deal with their providers to not charge WhatsApp data. Now picture those able to afford their first mobile plan, they don’t have disposable income, they don’t have the option to pay for Firefox, I’m afraid this will drive people to use Google even more.
It's a paid premium service, the free version will still be there.
People need to also stop thinking free internet services are genuinely free. Pay for things that provide value and if it's free, ask what value is in it for the provider instead.
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#18As long as it's all FOSS, this sounds like an excellent idea. I'd gladly pay for Mozilla to stop being beholden to Google.
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#19I'll buy whatever they're selling. I'm very happy with Firefox quantum, and I'd like Mozilla to have a sustainable income that doesn't come from the AdTech/surveillance industry.
But they fired their CEO, Brendan Eich, founder of Javascript, for donating to a charity they disagreed with (abortion). Given that I hold different political opinions than Mozilla, is Mozilla going to use this money to help or worsen intolerance between citizens?
Same for Wikipedia, who donated hundreds of thousands to feminist organizations to « rewrite Wikipedia ». Do I really want Wikipedia to rewrite history?
Re: Mozilla will reportedly launch a paid version of Firefox this fall
#20This is really scary. I keep getting messages from friends I converted to Signal, asking me to go back to WhatsApp since Facebook has a deal with their providers to not charge WhatsApp data. Now picture those able to afford their first mobile plan, they don’t have disposable income, they don’t have the option to pay for Firefox, I’m afraid this will drive people to use Google even more.
It's a paid premium service, the free version will still be there. People need to also stop thinking free internet services are genuinely free. Pay for things that provide value and if it's free, ask what value is in it for the provider instead.
Yup. The more "free" it is the more incentive companies/etc have to start misusing your data/etc. Google is "free". Facebook is "free".
If there's a cost I want to see that passed on to the consumer. Otherwise I can't trust a company, simply put.