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The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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Well, it want be a product because israeli companies never bring anything to the market, just create hype and exit as soon as they can. In general the state of IT in Israel is quite sad from usability and design perspective. Most of it looks like it was developed in the 90s and was never touched again (ie my university’s e-learning platform). As for consumer products, was there anything after Epilady?

JFrog?

Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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post #3

Well, it want be a product because israeli companies never bring anything to the market, just create hype and exit as soon as they can. In general the state of IT in Israel is quite sad from usability and design perspective. Most of it looks like it was developed in the 90s and was never touched again (ie my university’s e-learning platform). As for consumer products, was there anything after Epilady?

This is beyond ignorance, from this thread: Mellanox, MobilEye, Jfrog, OrboTech.

Not mentioned yet: SodaStream, RedisLabs, (now Google's) Anthos migrate.

And there are so many more that your statement is ridiculous. What have you done lately?

Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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The NSO Group's technology ends up being an oppression enabler in practice. Citizen Lab has been quite critical: * https://citizenlab.ca/?s=nso+group

I view working for NSO Group is no different than working for any arms company. And there is a lot of money to be made selling arms to despots and dictators. In part, because it is those leaders who have the least legitimacy are those who are the most insecure and feel need the strongest tools to solidify their rule.

Secure leaders do not need to stockpile arms, nor do they need to forcibly suppress their dissidents (which is what I understand is the main market is for NSO Group's tools.)

Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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Great business model combination by these companies. The one focuses on hacking, the other on protecting from hacking. I would think that the different national intelligence agencies would have high interest in infiltrating such companies.

> I would think that the different national intelligence agencies would have high interest in infiltrating such companies.

I bet in general non-governmental companies, especially with distributed offices, distributed sales teams, are especially easy to hack/infiltrate.

But NSO Group's target has never been other countries, it has been focused on helping governments infiltrate their citizen's and opponent's phones, which is a much softer target.

Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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post #3

Well, it want be a product because israeli companies never bring anything to the market, just create hype and exit as soon as they can. In general the state of IT in Israel is quite sad from usability and design perspective. Most of it looks like it was developed in the 90s and was never touched again (ie my university’s e-learning platform). As for consumer products, was there anything after Epilady?

I cut my teeth on Industrial automation and robotics in High school on an Eshed Robotec system (now Intellitech and seem to have downsized). There's also ACS motion control and Galil motion control. All Israeli.

Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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post #3

Well, it want be a product because israeli companies never bring anything to the market, just create hype and exit as soon as they can. In general the state of IT in Israel is quite sad from usability and design perspective. Most of it looks like it was developed in the 90s and was never touched again (ie my university’s e-learning platform). As for consumer products, was there anything after Epilady?

The most astonishing part of your comment is that you remember Epilady :)

Re: The battle in Israel to create an unhackable phone

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like you just have a bone to pick with Israel?

He is clearly not a fan, just look through his comment history.

just looked at the first 5 pages - couldn't find anything that supports your claim though.
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