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It's Cold in the Information Age

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Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

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I really don’t get articles like this. You can rent a fleet of computers for an hour for a few dollars. Your cellular phone is more powerful than the time-sharing systems of 25 years ago. There is pervasive wireless broadband internet available in much of the world. Single computers can be bought with dozens of cores and a lake of RAM. You can look up nearly any piece of human knowledge in a few seconds. The labor of…

> You can rent a fleet of computers for an hour for a few dollars.

On which you deploy an web app that has 30 working components written in 10 different languages that is able to do a fraction of the work a single vertically scaled server that runs 3 C written components. And has less than two 9 uptime. No one person can grasp it mentally. Is statically linked and must be updated piece by piece, unable to use the distribution repos and upstream work. Oh, and man, what man? Every one of the 30 components is "open core" with cool new invented terminology that pushes you into paying for consulting or reading spaghetti "object oriented" code. It also has stack trace for logging.

How ungrateful of little sysadmin old me not to appreciate progress.

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

#22

The current crappiness of AR reminds me of the early days of MP3 players. Only a few geeks had them, and it took forever to load an album over the printer port if it didn't crash half way. Then 5 years later, everyone had an iPod.

I was in highschool when MP3 players were a thing, just before and slightly after the iPod. Everyone had one.

I wasn't in a particularly affluent or tech-savvy area. It was cheap to buy and just required you to know how to move files from one drive to the other in a computer - which was a skill that was very common and was actually taught at schools in my area.

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

#23
> kubernetes's insane complexity proliferating

Is K8S any more complex than the other options for deploying apps across a fleet?

I’m genuinely curious because it looks complex to me, but I have little background to determine if what I see is complexity or unfamiliar territory.

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

#24

The current crappiness of AR reminds me of the early days of MP3 players. Only a few geeks had them, and it took forever to load an album over the printer port if it didn't crash half way. Then 5 years later, everyone had an iPod.

What specifically looks similar to you? Consider there are many things which at some point only a few geeks had and which 5 (or 50) years later still only a few geeks had.

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

#25

Everything’s amazing and nobody’s happy.

This isn't complaining about today vs. life before the industrial revolution; it's complaining about today vs. last year or two, within a particular job sector.

In other words, total amassed progress may be amazing, but according to the author, its derivative in web/consumer tech sucks (I'm inclined to agree, even if not for the same reasons).

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

#27
To quote David Mitchell (the comedian, not the author) it would be tempting to take this kind of thing seriously if it wasn't for a damnable sense of perspective.

Some thoughts:

1. Much like how the entire centrist media machine feeds off the insanity of the current US administration, somehow this article is at the top of HN. We put it there. (Well, 42 of you did, as of the time I wrote this.)

2. Perhaps the best-kept secret in the world is that it is getting better by almost every measurement. The late, great Hans Rosling was superb at breaking down these dimensions in video form (eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo ) but if you want the real deal, I recommend Steven Pinker's excellent "Enlightenment Now".

3. I couldn't care less that Intel has "stalled" since you can now buy a Raspberry Pi that pwns my first computer by an order of magnitude or three and costs less than $25. Meanwhile, Apple is refocusing on Mac hardware again because so many "poor" people have phones now that they can see a sales ceiling... this means that a huge percentage of the planet has a significant computer on them all of the time.

4. Not only does age and wisdom allow you to observe tech over many cycles, but the older I get the more I realize that tech is nothing outside of its relationship to politics, culture, and ourselves. Look at how young children just assume everything is a screen, now. Tech is now an important aspect of the daily political conversation. In just 15 years we've gone from a society that rents VHS movies to one that feels entitled to comment, upvote and subscribe to everything they watch. It's fucking crazy how much tech has reprogrammed everything from the way we find love to the way we get from A to B.

Finally, to the author: sorry a lot of the comments here are negative. They aren't wrong, but we're still working on chilling out and defaulting to presuming that in any given moment, people are generally trying their best in this community. The good news: there's lots to be excited about in this "worst possible timeline" we've fallen into.

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

#28
post #2

70s and 80s were relatively quiet on the tech innovation front. We might be headed for a couple of decades like that.

Except for having invented the microprocessor, the x64 and ARM ISAs, Unix, C, SQL, SGML, TCP/IP, digital audio and video, electronic music, GUIs, logic programming, and basically everything we're taking as granted today.

Edit: x86 of course

Re: It's Cold in the Information Age

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post #23

> kubernetes's insane complexity proliferating Is K8S any more complex than the other options for deploying apps across a fleet? I’m genuinely curious because it looks complex to me, but I have little background to determine if what I see is complexity or unfamiliar territory.

Deploying apps across a fleet is far more complex than most of its practitioners need.
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