Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat's plant-based burgers aren't healthier
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Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat's plant-based burgers aren't healthier
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#2To me this conclusion does not fit with a few points: quality of fats, overall quantity of fat, protein quantity, and fiber.
I'm not making any overarching conclusion about what is healthier, but I do think the article's conclusion is pretty weak.
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#31. Surely there are other chemical compounds that are present in the fast food meats and not the plant based meats, and vice versa, but that aren’t listed in the article’s table.
2. The plant-based meats are intended to imitate real meat as much as possible, and I would imagine an intuitive way to do this is to include the same amount of ingredients as on the table presented.
3. “Healthiness” is probably unfortunately best measured through a large and well intentioned study, and not objectively by comparing a limited list of ingredients.
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#4I didn't even realize that the companies mission was to create a product that was "healthier." I always assumed that it was to create something that was more sustainable...
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#5Veganism is not a health choice for most vegans, it’s an ethical one. Plant-based foods use fewer resources per calorie and do not require cruel treatment of animals.
Re: Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat's plant-based burgers aren't healthier
#6Their goal was to make a 100% plant-based alternative to meat that tastes like meat.
Plenty of other reasons to not eat meat. Humaneness toward animals? climate change?
Also, regardless of above, not 100% onboard with the premise. I'll be interested in long-term studies. Impossible has been around less than 10 years.
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#7"Barclays concluded that when it comes to plant-based citizens, many are "thinking that they are healthier than what they really are.""
I'm assuming this was retranslated --from burger to citizen
Re: Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat's plant-based burgers aren't healthier
#8Veganism is not a health choice for most vegans, it’s an ethical one. Plant-based foods use fewer resources per calorie and do not require cruel treatment of animals.
> Plant-based foods use fewer resources per calorie and do not require cruel treatment of animals.
They kind of have to at some point, otherwise you're using artificial nitrogen to top up the soil and that's not just bad for the soil but is also depleting a limited resource (The nitrogen comes from what IIRC is, a single mine).
I remember reading about some farmers that managed to buck the usual statistics by getting around half a thousand chickens to an acre of farmland -- the chickens acted as a natural form of pest-control for the farmland, and their shit and corpses (when they died) provided a natural source for the NPK needed to feed the soil.
The thing is, vegans forget that plants, etc. have all evolved with death as part of the equation. Animal death is required in some form, to supply the micro-organisms in the soil with the proper nutrients. Anyone who has studied farming and agriculture knows that the ideal isn't to eliminate animal death (something that is pretty much impossible unless you want to destabilize the ecosystem and starve your plants), but try to minimize it and ensure that the death is not wasted.
I think this mistake in understanding goes back to school, where children are taught that if you give plants soil, water and sunlight, they will grow. They could take that opportunity to talk about the NPK cycle, the billions of micro-organisms in the soil that need to be fed to provide the plants with nutrients, the fact that dead animals help feed the plants and the micro-organisms, etc. Not teaching children about this when children are capable of understanding it is a disservice given that for many people that is the only schooling that they will ever have on farming and agriculture.
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#9I mean this is obvious, right? Salads on fast-food menus have more fat and other "bad stuff" than burgers thanks to cheese, dressing etc. Your FF faux burger is still fried, cheesed, sauced etc. Next please.
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#10> Nutrition is a major reason that people are giving plant-based burger a try
Not really sure about that. Current meat "production" involves destroying the planet at an accelerated pace while treating animals in the most horrible way imaginable (and even beyond imagination).