Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
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Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#2I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#3I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
Google said that the adblocking would still be available for entreprise customers so it should be as simple as flipping a switch. Maintenance should be easy if that's true.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#4I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one.
On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#5I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
Google said that the adblocking would still be available for entreprise customers so it should be as simple as flipping a switch. Maintenance should be easy if that's true.
I think they'd simply be maintaining separate sets of backported code, since Enterprise Google Chrome won't be open source.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google said that the adblocking would still be available for entreprise customers so it should be as simple as flipping a switch. Maintenance should be easy if that's true.
I think they'd simply be maintaining separate sets of backported code, since Enterprise Google Chrome won't be open source.
WebKit/Blink is a mixed LGPL/BSD licensed project, with KHTML and other KDE developed parts being LGPL. Google likely can't keep most of their patches stripping support secret.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#7I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
I think Google will find people switch browsers more easily than they think.
There was a time when Chrome was not ubiquitous. Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet if it results in a better experience. That's how we ended up with Chrome after all.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#8I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one. On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?
I've been using Firefox for 6+months now as my primary browser. Once used to the slightly different UI I've not noticed any difference in day to day browsing.
Only complaint - and this is my fault for enabling it and not a Firefox issue - is that if I used a container for Google, reCAPTCHAs are a huge huge huge pain in the arse now and take many attempts to pass. This is (I guess) because the Google cookie cannot track your general web usage (since your google cookie is in a container that only works on google domains, rather than general web properties) so it is harder to distinguish you from a bot. Also the dev tools are not as nice, but that is a niggle.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#9I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.
I think Google will find people switch browsers more easily than they think. There was a time when Chrome was not ubiquitous. Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet if it results in a better experience. That's how we ended up with Chrome after all.
> Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet
Google put a lot of effort in convincing those users, by plastering Chrome icons in their products and saying it was the supposed way to access the internet "safely".
It's not as easy for others to do the same.
Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes
#10I feel like things would be easier if Firefox could be embeded in another browser just like chromium can.
Let Google cripple their browser for themselves, and Mozilla provide the good and strong de facto browser engine.