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iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

#101
Apple might end up becoming a benevolent king for whoever decides (and can afford) to use its ecosystem.

I'm in favour of that, I wish it will democratize this concept to other companies, although it's unlikely Google will since it's in competition with their core business model.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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With trust, trade is unlimited. That said, we should be able to say NO - and this includes apple. For instance, why should we have to identify ourselves to apple?

AFAIK, you don't. An iPhone will work fine without signing in to any Apple service and you can opt out of all Apple data collection right in the device. I've set up several testing iDevices for work with no Apple accounts. The only thing you can't do without an Apple account is to use the Apple services like the App Store and iCloud and other paid services. I think even software updates can be done without an account…

Can you use alternative app store on your non sign-in apple device without rooting it ?

Because on android you can.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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That's a good feature but quite different, if the user is at home when they need to use the app that first time then it reveals where the user lives and possibly personally identifies them.

Your IP address when on WiFi almost certainly can be connected to a specific address by a databroker. That doesn't mean location shouldn't be limited in resolution, but there are other ways to get the same thing.

My ISP rotates IP addresses between users, so you can't match IPs to addresses. Quite often GeoIP doesn't even get my city right.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Yeah, but what if the marketing isn’t for consumers? What if someone at Apple was smart enough to figure out that the rampant abuses perpetrated by privacy-monetizing Silicon Valley et al. were ultimately time-limited and would blow up eventually? What if Apple’s privacy-focused marketing was aimed at regulators?

And/or aimed at people like me, who will then go on to force/nag people around me to use more private/secure alternatives.

Works locally around me. My family isn’t using Android for this reason.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

#105

It seems a bit extreme to offer apps one of two extremes: either my sub-metre location or no location at all. It seems the reasonable default for location sharing should be something like sharing the rough suburb that I'm in. This solves most use-cases such as showing closest store locations, delivery options, dating apps showing nearby matches, etc. It's only the occasional navigation app that needs to know exactly…

I specifically get directions “home” to a neighbor’s house a bit away. Once I know where I am, I kill Google Maps. I’m sure they could, if they wanted to badly enough, figure the whole thing out, but at least my profile has a certain amount of uncertainty (though what utility that has is probably debatable). I would love to be able to fuzz my location within a certain (randomized?) radius of my home for certain apps.…

Have you ever checked https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?pb to see? In my case, google knows where my phone is during the night: at home.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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You can selectively deny permissible requests after the app is installed, but what irritates me is that granting access to my location allows the app to continually track me while it's running in the background (even if you never open the app). I've heard this will change in a future version of Android. I discovered this when I was scrolling through the DTEK app on my BlackBerry, which shows every time an app request…

I don't think background location works anymore. My GPS logger I use for cycling gets killed after about 20 minutes if it isn't the currently open app when I turn off the screen.

This is not Android thing (yet). Just some vendors, start killing apps in the background. However this is developers nightmare, as they can't deliver consistent experience across all devices. IMO background tracking (with all restrictions, killing...) should be handled directly by AndroidOS, not by vendors. Checkout https://dontkillmyapp.com

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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post #38

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I think that telling you that my 2002 PPC iBook actually had remplaçables batteries, as well as all Apple laptop of that era, is pretty much proving misrepresentation... They were very practical (especially when video playback autonomy was limited to 2h and word processing to around 5h) but clunky. We could discuss for ages if, now a common choice across multiple manufacturers, moving for internal non-moving battery…

I should clarify, I was referring to iPhones. Edited.

That’s also making the point if you need to edit your message because you stand corrected, while very nice and very honest of you, it was misrepresentation at first shot.

Beside you can also imagine than two decade experience with replaceable batteries might also have come to play when they decided that they’re phones will never have one because of constraint on this form factor...

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

#108

I really don't understand how people can simultaneously say that Apple is anti-consumer and then ignore moves like this that not only show that Apple is committed to consumers. It would be so easy for them to gather all this info and sell it to advertisers and third-parties and yet they refuse to. On top of that, I think it's strangely telling that most of the anti-Apple stories when it comes to the "right to repair"…

Apple's recent forays into privacy rights has really lightened my opinion of them.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

#109

It seems a bit extreme to offer apps one of two extremes: either my sub-metre location or no location at all. It seems the reasonable default for location sharing should be something like sharing the rough suburb that I'm in. This solves most use-cases such as showing closest store locations, delivery options, dating apps showing nearby matches, etc. It's only the occasional navigation app that needs to know exactly…

I specifically get directions “home” to a neighbor’s house a bit away. Once I know where I am, I kill Google Maps. I’m sure they could, if they wanted to badly enough, figure the whole thing out, but at least my profile has a certain amount of uncertainty (though what utility that has is probably debatable). I would love to be able to fuzz my location within a certain (randomized?) radius of my home for certain apps.…

Just so you know, if you're using regular Google-infused Android, then depending on how you ‘kill’ Maps it may still be running in the background. And it may start in the background without you running the app.

I'd also bet that Google's other apps transmit your location anyway―if only because other apps use it too―and that it's not necessarily reflected in the timeline in the web profile.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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That's a good feature but quite different, if the user is at home when they need to use the app that first time then it reveals where the user lives and possibly personally identifies them.

Your IP address when on WiFi almost certainly can be connected to a specific address by a databroker. That doesn't mean location shouldn't be limited in resolution, but there are other ways to get the same thing.

Isn’t is usually SSIDs that are used for location mapping of WiFi access points. The mapping cars gather that information when they’re doing street view stuff.
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