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Your IP address when on WiFi almost certainly can be connected to a specific address by a databroker. That doesn't mean location shouldn't be limited in resolution, but there are other ways to get the same thing.
The ip address is also not going to be shared with apps anymore starting in iOS 13
iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you
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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you
#72https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056
"By enabling Location Services for your devices, you agree and consent to the transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of your location data and location search queries by Apple and its partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based and road traffic-based products and services."
Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you
#73Good gravy this would be an abysmal report on Android. In my experience many of the free utility apps and games I downloaded required location tracking for no good reason. I’m on iOS for that (and other) reasons.
Android also has a terrible issue with not having good options on this front. You have to either not download the video game that needs open access to your contacts or micromanage some sketchy looking app that will help you “block” these sorts of things.
I discovered this when I was scrolling through the DTEK app on my BlackBerry, which shows every time an app requests sensitive data access, and saw that a bunch of apps that I hadn't opened in a while (like GasBuddy) were accessing my location every 5 minutes.
Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you
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The ip address is also not going to be shared with apps anymore starting in iOS 13
How? When an app makes an API request, the client IP address is (necessarily) exposed to the server.
Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you
#75It seems a bit extreme to offer apps one of two extremes: either my sub-metre location or no location at all. It seems the reasonable default for location sharing should be something like sharing the rough suburb that I'm in. This solves most use-cases such as showing closest store locations, delivery options, dating apps showing nearby matches, etc. It's only the occasional navigation app that needs to know exactly…
[1] http://www.shivakasiviswanathan.com/ICDE16b.pdf
[2] https://machinelearning.apple.com/docs/learning-with-privacy...
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With trust, trade is unlimited. That said, we should be able to say NO - and this includes apple. For instance, why should we have to identify ourselves to apple?
AFAIK, you don't. An iPhone will work fine without signing in to any Apple service and you can opt out of all Apple data collection right in the device. I've set up several testing iDevices for work with no Apple accounts. The only thing you can't do without an Apple account is to use the Apple services like the App Store and iCloud and other paid services. I think even software updates can be done without an account…
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You can disable any app's location access from the iOS settings, it's fairly trivial. As for fake location, well, give it time. They seem to be willing to provide fake emails for the new Sign In With Apple service. So they might start actually obfuscating location in the future.
Fake location is necessary because apps may annoy users with popups until you grant the permission or give some benefits in exchange for location.
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AFAIK, you don't. An iPhone will work fine without signing in to any Apple service and you can opt out of all Apple data collection right in the device. I've set up several testing iDevices for work with no Apple accounts. The only thing you can't do without an Apple account is to use the Apple services like the App Store and iCloud and other paid services. I think even software updates can be done without an account…
What good is an iPhone without access to the App Store?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
AFAIK, you don't. An iPhone will work fine without signing in to any Apple service and you can opt out of all Apple data collection right in the device. I've set up several testing iDevices for work with no Apple accounts. The only thing you can't do without an Apple account is to use the Apple services like the App Store and iCloud and other paid services. I think even software updates can be done without an account…
What good is an iPhone without access to the App Store?
Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you
#80I support Apple trying to turn privacy into a major marketing issue, but I think we’ve basically already learned that consumers just do not care.