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iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by dpkonofa »

ssivark wrote: post #37
dpkonofa wrote: post #16

I really don't understand how people can simultaneously say that Apple is anti-consumer and then ignore moves like this that not only show that Apple is committed to consumers. It would be so easy for them to gather all this info and sell it to advertisers and third-parties and yet they refuse to. On top of that, I think it's strangely telling that most of the anti-Apple stories when it comes to the "right to repair"…

Refer what other comments says about un-repairability of Apple hardware, or software slowdowns, or the inability to replace the battery on phones/tablets. The answer seems to be that Apple doesn't have a monolithic pro/anti consumer opinion, but just whatever is better for their business profits. - Do whatever they can to push people to buy more devices and more expensive ones. - Do whatever they can to make their iO…

Except that people are misrepresenting all 3 of those situations to make their point. Apple didn't slow down people's phones in order to get them to buy newer models. They actually slowed them down to extend their lifespans when the battery started to fail. While I do think that they could have communicated that better and that their current solution is pretty decent, it's a huge leap to say that this was an intentional move on their part to screw their customers over.

And the repairability and replacement are also 2 things that I understand because it forces users to ensure that they're using genuine Apple components that won't detract from the device or the experience of using it. When so much of your business stems from the reputation of having quality products, third-party repairability seems like a terrible trade-off if there's no quality control.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by dpkonofa »

ikeyany wrote: post #47
askafriend wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't spread misinformation. It causes real damage. Your statement is verifiable misinformation. I am a customer who was actually experiencing unexpected shutdowns due to voltage spikes on a naturally degraded Li-Ion battery on my iPhone 6s. This is something that happens to all Li-Ion batteries . I had experienced this on my previous Android phones too when they got old. The change Apple made was throttling t…

I made the appropriate edit in my original comment. edit - Apple did not communicate this information to users from the start...that is not misinformation. When I replied to your comment, your comment originally consisted of just your first sentence.

Yes, they did. It's in the changelog for the version of iOS that introduced the battery performance changes.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by [deleted] »

_8j50 wrote: post #46
saagarjha wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being able to repair your device is anti-consumer–in a vacuum. In the real world, there are trade offs: making devices repairable makes them thicker, more complicated, etc. Those that understand this and feel that Apple is compromising in the wrong direction have a reasonable opinion. However, there is quite a bit of misrepresentation as you mention: often “right to repair” people forget that this compromise exis…

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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by _8j50 »

_8j50 wrote: post #46
saagarjha wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being able to repair your device is anti-consumer–in a vacuum. In the real world, there are trade offs: making devices repairable makes them thicker, more complicated, etc. Those that understand this and feel that Apple is compromising in the wrong direction have a reasonable opinion. However, there is quite a bit of misrepresentation as you mention: often “right to repair” people forget that this compromise exis…

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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by threeseed »

saagarjha wrote: post #39
dpkonofa wrote: post #16

I really don't understand how people can simultaneously say that Apple is anti-consumer and then ignore moves like this that not only show that Apple is committed to consumers. It would be so easy for them to gather all this info and sell it to advertisers and third-parties and yet they refuse to. On top of that, I think it's strangely telling that most of the anti-Apple stories when it comes to the "right to repair"…

Not being able to repair your device is anti-consumer–in a vacuum. In the real world, there are trade offs: making devices repairable makes them thicker, more complicated, etc. Those that understand this and feel that Apple is compromising in the wrong direction have a reasonable opinion. However, there is quite a bit of misrepresentation as you mention: often “right to repair” people forget that this compromise exis…

Apple devices are repairable. They just don't make it easy for you to do it.

But in every city there will be hundreds of shops which will repair it for you.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by [deleted] »

dpkonofa wrote: post #16

I really don't understand how people can simultaneously say that Apple is anti-consumer and then ignore moves like this that not only show that Apple is committed to consumers. It would be so easy for them to gather all this info and sell it to advertisers and third-parties and yet they refuse to. On top of that, I think it's strangely telling that most of the anti-Apple stories when it comes to the "right to repair"…

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Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by drdaeman »

dpkonofa wrote: post #16

I really don't understand how people can simultaneously say that Apple is anti-consumer and then ignore moves like this that not only show that Apple is committed to consumers. It would be so easy for them to gather all this info and sell it to advertisers and third-parties and yet they refuse to. On top of that, I think it's strangely telling that most of the anti-Apple stories when it comes to the "right to repair"…

App Store as the single source of apps is, debatably, anti-consumer. You can't have an app that doesn't fit Apple's policies, at all.

Safari as the only browser choice for handling web links, too. Even Microsoft in their days always allowed users change the defaults.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by askafriend »

ikeyany wrote: post #47
askafriend wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't spread misinformation. It causes real damage. Your statement is verifiable misinformation. I am a customer who was actually experiencing unexpected shutdowns due to voltage spikes on a naturally degraded Li-Ion battery on my iPhone 6s. This is something that happens to all Li-Ion batteries . I had experienced this on my previous Android phones too when they got old. The change Apple made was throttling t…

I made the appropriate edit in my original comment. edit - Apple did not communicate this information to users from the start...that is not misinformation. When I replied to your comment, your comment originally consisted of just your first sentence.

Here's a link to the change-log of iOS 10.2.1 (scroll down a bit) where the throttling feature for degraded batteries was first introduced: https://support.apple.com/kb/dl1893?locale=en_US

Every single person that upgraded their phone saw this change-log.

There's a line there that clearly says: "It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone."

If your argument is that it's lacking detail, then fine. But that's an entirely different implication. A much less interesting one.

Re: iOS 13 now shows you a map of where apps have been tracking you

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Post by zapzupnz »

akmarinov wrote: post #17
duskwuff wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Never allow" already exists. The user can deny location access when it is first requested, or can disable location access through Settings. "Provide fake location" is not necessary, because apps which fail to work when you deny location access are rejected during App Store review.

Well Pokemon Go basically doesn't work without location and it wasn't rejected.

Bad example.

Yes, the core gameplay doesn't work, but the app still allows you to log in, manage your account mess with your existing Pokémon and items, move those Pokémon into Pokémon Let's Go's Go Park on the Nintendo Switch.

If you try to play the core game with location permission permanently disabled, the game will alert the user that the game needs the location permission enabled but it will NOT lock the user out of those other functions.

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