Quick Question: You are worried about right-ring rabbit holes, NYT.
If I watched a bunch of NYT, Vox, and other such videos, are you _sure_ I wouldn't be sucked into a Left-wing rabbit hole?
The Making of a YouTube Radical
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Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#32This piece of "journalism" is very biased towards the left. I have noticed that the left has increasingly declared traditional right-wing values as "extremist" or "alt-right" to attempt to whittle down what being right-wing means. An example of this is abortion. No matter how you feel about it, saying that abortion is murder and should be banned is now, in the NYT's opinion, "alt-right" and "extremist" even though ab…
The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the extreme rightists, usually of the religious variety, think that abortion is murder, but rank and file conservatives will probably not tell you that they a woman who gets an abortion(even illegally) should go to prison for life for first degree murder and conspir…
Except in those states that have already voted to do so, with a mandate from their constituents. Except for those conservatives.
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#33This piece of "journalism" is very biased towards the left. I have noticed that the left has increasingly declared traditional right-wing values as "extremist" or "alt-right" to attempt to whittle down what being right-wing means. An example of this is abortion. No matter how you feel about it, saying that abortion is murder and should be banned is now, in the NYT's opinion, "alt-right" and "extremist" even though ab…
The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the extreme rightists, usually of the religious variety, think that abortion is murder, but rank and file conservatives will probably not tell you that they a woman who gets an abortion(even illegally) should go to prison for life for first degree murder and conspir…
I think very few right-wingers would agree with that (I'm talking non-religious right).
However, they would agree that the abortion doctor should experience prison for being a literal serial killer.
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#34> When Mr. Cain first saw these videos, he dismissed them as left-wing propaganda. But he watched more, and he started to wonder if people like Ms. Wynn had a point. Her videos persuasively used research and citations to rebut the right-wing talking points he had absorbed.
Good to know apparently none of the right-wing videos used research or citations - only 'talking points'. Or at least it wasn't mentioned.
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also a very misleading and dishonest journalism, as many of YouTubers displayed in the final stages have nothing to do with the alt-right.
Comment from the author (which is getting ratioed): > Hey, writer here. This collage is just a sample from his viewing history. Some far-right, some not. https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1137392725081219073
The choice of the text scrolling over the collage, however, is the author's / NYT's doing.
> Caleb Cain was a college dropout looking for direction. He turned to YouTube.
> Soon, he was pulled into a far-right universe, watching thousands of videos filled with conspiracy theories, misogyny and racism.
> I was brainwashed
If some, in the admission of the writer, are not far right / [insert some other libelous term here], is it fair to label them all as such?
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the extreme rightists, usually of the religious variety, think that abortion is murder, but rank and file conservatives will probably not tell you that they a woman who gets an abortion(even illegally) should go to prison for life for first degree murder and conspir…
I think very few right-wingers would agree with that (I'm talking non-religious right). However, they would agree that the abortion doctor should experience prison for being a literal serial killer.
Do you have any stats on the non-religious right agreeing that a doctor performing an abortion should be in prison for murder?
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#37> Google Brain’s researchers wondered if they could keep YouTube users engaged for longer by steering them into different parts of YouTube, rather than feeding their existing interests. And they began testing a new algorithm that incorporated a different type of A.I., called reinforcement learning. > The new A.I., known as Reinforce, was a kind of long-term addiction machine. It was designed to maximize users’ engage…
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#38> Google Brain’s researchers wondered if they could keep YouTube users engaged for longer by steering them into different parts of YouTube, rather than feeding their existing interests. And they began testing a new algorithm that incorporated a different type of A.I., called reinforcement learning. > The new A.I., known as Reinforce, was a kind of long-term addiction machine. It was designed to maximize users’ engage…
I don't see whats wrong about suggesting videos to users that they like to watch.
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the extreme rightists, usually of the religious variety, think that abortion is murder, but rank and file conservatives will probably not tell you that they a woman who gets an abortion(even illegally) should go to prison for life for first degree murder and conspir…
Except in those states that have already voted to do so, with a mandate from their constituents. Except for those conservatives.
Notice how none of the heartbeat abortion laws actually set the punishment as the same punishment for murder. So clearly those people do not see elective abortion as equivalent to killing an already-born human.
Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical
#40For much of the article, the author portrays the “left-wing” as a bastion of sanity and moral good, a place where those who have been hijacked by the “right-wing” can be rehabilitated. Only at the very end does he pay passing lip-service to the possibility that there might be danger on both sides. Is his characterization accurate?
I am having trouble thinking of a way to answer this without being downvoted for either being "too left" or "too right" in my reply. Maybe I'll just try and take a side route: Ideology is one hell of a drug. I like Gary Bernhardt's talk[0] on the subject. He defines ideology as the stuff we don't know that we know. In any event, there are certainly shallow moralists on both sides.