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Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by slig »

butteroverflow wrote: post #23
Amezarak wrote: post #11

> Indeed, humane methods of rodent control are readily available. Retailers included in the activists' lawsuit, including Walmart and Canadian Tire, sell humane live traps (for as low as $19.99 on Walmart.ca at time of writing). Many pest control companies also offer humane solutions. I have had mice get in my house a few times. I hate glue traps. I had seen them used at a restaurant I used to work at, and it is pret…

>I tried all sorts of "instant kill" traps I have relatives living in the country. They get a lot of mice and went through a lot of these factory produced traps; nothing worked. Then they bought a couple of pretty simple traps made by local school kids in shop class. I believe the head count of each trap is now in the hundreds. It's a pretty simple contraption: a wood brick with a burrow in it. You put a piece of foo…

There's a YouTube channel that features old and new mousetraps. Some of them are 3D printed and work just like the one you mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQv9MGcwQg4uVfQl2ZvPu...

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by hombre_fatal »

Nice to see some sane, compassionate comments here to balance out the psychopaths who can't even empathize with a mouse.

Weird how people always seem to brag about how little empathy they have for animals whether it's a submission about glue traps or Beyond Meat. Though you usually need showdead=true to see them.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by jwagenet »

Shikadi wrote: post #27
rident wrote: post #7

Who leaves a mouse on a glue trap until it dies? That's messed up! I can hear when a mouse is on those things and at that point I carry the frightened mouse outside, pour a cap full of vegetable oil around it's feet and it frees itself, running off into the yard, then the trap goes in the trash. Heinously cruel? Only if you're a lazy shit.

Oh my god I wish I had known you could do that, [warning, don't read if you don't want to hear a horrible story about a mouse] I put down a glue trap to get what I thought were cockroaches but came to find a mouse stuck in it. Horrified, I tried to get it loose with a stick, but the glue was so strong I accidentally broke its legs, the poor thing kept trying to pull them free... I immediately removed all the glue tra…

If you are looking for a more ‘humane’ method for mice and rats check out the Automatic Trap. As far as I can tell it’s near instant and doesn’t suffer from the prolonged suffering issues of glue, poison, and flip traps.

https://www.automatictrap.com/

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by tyingq »

I found there are many other cruel traps. There's even a pretty expensive one that electrocutes them for 2 minutes.

"This humane trap kills rodents using a high-voltage shock and since rats are able to restart their hearts, the shock is applied for 2 minutes to ensure higher kill rates."

I feel like this must exist solely to satisfy some weird revenge or morbid urge. It's way more cruel, complicated, expensive, and probably less effective than a regular spring trap.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by icebraining »

tyingq wrote: post #54

I found there are many other cruel traps. There's even a pretty expensive one that electrocutes them for 2 minutes. "This humane trap kills rodents using a high-voltage shock and since rats are able to restart their hearts, the shock is applied for 2 minutes to ensure higher kill rates." I feel like this must exist solely to satisfy some weird revenge or morbid urge. It's way more cruel, complicated, expensive, and p…

Spring traps aren't necessarily better. It can crush organs and keep them stuck, while taking longer than 2m to actually kill them.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by leguminous »

Zak wrote: post #41
ourmandave wrote: post #33

Glue traps are horrible by design. Just reading the label made me nauseous. But given the mission there's no good outcome for the mice. Even if you catch-and-release (in a far off field away from homes), mice are prolific and there's now probably a bunch of starving baby mice somewhere.

A good outcome for mice over the long term is to seal off holes in the building so mice stop coming inside.

This is one of the nice side effects of the air-sealing requirements in modern building codes. The more airtight your building is, the fewer entry points there are for pests.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by tyingq »

icebraining wrote: post #55
tyingq wrote: post #54

I found there are many other cruel traps. There's even a pretty expensive one that electrocutes them for 2 minutes. "This humane trap kills rodents using a high-voltage shock and since rats are able to restart their hearts, the shock is applied for 2 minutes to ensure higher kill rates." I feel like this must exist solely to satisfy some weird revenge or morbid urge. It's way more cruel, complicated, expensive, and p…

Spring traps aren't necessarily better. It can crush organs and keep them stuck, while taking longer than 2m to actually kill them.

I'd be interested to see some actual data. Is there a kill trap that's reliably quick? I can see the electrocution one failing to kill as well.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #52

Nice to see some sane, compassionate comments here to balance out the psychopaths who can't even empathize with a mouse. Weird how people always seem to brag about how little empathy they have for animals whether it's a submission about glue traps or Beyond Meat. Though you usually need showdead=true to see them.

Meh, it's all a matter of perspective and understanding the circle of life. Having grown up in a rural area, most city-born people would have the vapors if they knew how the food they eat was produced. That includes even the vegans; agricultural pest animals need to be controlled in order to avoid damage and contamination of produce and grain.

Unless you're planning on living on veggies grown in a hermetically sealed greenhouse, yeah, a lot of creatures died in a way that's a lot nastier than a glue trap to ensure that you could have food on your plate at a reasonable price. That's just the way it is.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by cptskippy »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #52

Nice to see some sane, compassionate comments here to balance out the psychopaths who can't even empathize with a mouse. Weird how people always seem to brag about how little empathy they have for animals whether it's a submission about glue traps or Beyond Meat. Though you usually need showdead=true to see them.

I'm glad we're labeling a large segment of the population psychopaths because they can't empathize.

I have observed people braking down in tears when a bug is stomped on and it's completely incomprehensible to me. I recognize that it's wrong and unnecessary but that's learned, I don't feel emotions toward the bug.

I would never use a glue trap because I understand that it's cruel and causes rodents to suffer and I have no emotions about it, it's a learned skill.

Am I a psychopath?

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